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[FZP]

That's is terrible news. I can't imagine how you were feeling when it happened. Like many have stated, it would be Hartech or refund for me. The Hartech result would be the best possible outcome imho as you know you're going to get back a better car than what you purchased.
Good luck with the dealer

 

[easternjets]

The previous engine issue was bore scoring, I was attracted to the car as this issue had been taken care of with a sizeable invoice. The current issue is, I think, an IMS bearing failure and I'm pretty sure it is unrelated.

It really is a nice car but, as others have said, there are plenty of other nice cars out there.

I will try to be patient and see if I can get what I want, if not, I will get a refund.

And, no I didn't get a PPI - I know my motors so it would have been a waste of money. :sad:

'It really is a nice car' sorry mate to be blunt but No its not.
You've got two hopes of getting the rebuild you want 'no hope' and Bob Hope.
I can tell by the tone of your posts that you've built yourself up to making this massive investment in the car of your dreams and then this happened.
Take my advice and everyone else's get a refund and 'walk away', your patience will be tested by a dealer desperate for you to keep the car he doesn't want back.
If you can get ALL your money back take it and run.

 

[Albionmuz]

Is there a limit on the warranty per claim? Mine is 5k but unlimited claims, not enough for a full engine rebuild.

 

[nigel99]

Hartech (at zero cost to you + a loaner) or walk with full refund.

 

[Delanor]

Don`t be misled by thinking you have rights under the SOG Act etc you have but it relies on the co-operation of the seller, basically if the seller agrees you have a case for a refund etc then it will be OK but if the seller doesn`t want to play then it is a difficult path to get a refund.

If the dealer doesn`t play ball you have to formally reject the car in writing stating your case then hand the car and keys back and anything else associated with the car then you have to take it to court, in the meantime you have no car and no money and then you will have to wait for the case to go to court and then if it is found in your favour your money should be refunded but the Dealer can still refuse to play ball so then you will have to take further action to recover your money.

Its not as easy as it seems.

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Del.

 

[mrgrey]

My personal opinion is keep it simple WALK away now. You don't know if this is the tip of an iceberg.

Good luck

 

[easternjets]

Had a think about this and here's a win win situation.

Get your money back tomorrow morning, no arguments and no grief.
Then when the cars back from the rebuild, if you like it and still want it buy it!

At least this way you can test the good nature of the seller and then sleep on your decision, safe in the fact you have your money in 'your' bank.

One last question, is the seller an Indy Porsche specialist or an OPC or just a run of the mill S/H car dealer?

 

[imac]

Don't reason anymore.

Walk and don't physically return to the dealers.

E-mail from now on!
:judge:

 

[TJW964]

Returning a car to a dealer isn't always hard work. I bought my daughter a car about 15 months ago. It played up on the way home. We took it back to them, even though they suggested we book it in for a service.

Once there, they fixed the fault, but then it appeared again on the 40 mile over to us. They didn't even bother delivering it to us. They fixed it again and then said it was ready for us to pick up.

I said that I no longer trusted the car and they said fine, come and get your money. Money was then sent to our account within 5 days.

Evans Halshaw. Would recommend them for service and honesty. Problem was clearly unknown to them and they tried to fix it fairly.


PS - I'd return it and find another one, ideally with a Hartech rebuld already done. Or buy a turbo!

 

[resigner]

Was it a cheap car? Are you realistically going to be able to find a replacement at the same budget?

I am with the 'Hartech or nothing' brigade here. If the dealer is willing to get Hartech to check it over, and cover all the costs of anything which needs doing, and that includes anything else Hartech find, and a loan car while it gets sorted, then think that option through carefully.

Care to say what you paid and the spec of the car in more detail? We can give you a more informed opinion on what is the best option. If it is going to be unrealistic to find another car at the same money of the same spec, which is going to be a good car (who knows, another one might blow up as well!), then keeping this one, if it's sorted out properly, might well be your best option.

Don't act to rashly. Think it through, see if the dealer will play ball and if not, then hand it back. Give them the chance to solve the problem. Some dealers are good after all.

 

[pancobalt]

full refund and walk away. end of.

You may be feeling emotional right now but just read all the recent threads where forum members have battled and WAITED for their recent purchase to be repaired by the dealer.

get your money and start the job again - no shame in that .

good luck with whatever you decide , and never pity the dealer - its his job and his profit margins overall should allow for sh*t like this .

 

[deMort]

I think although im not sure that aftermarket warrentys are not active untill 30 days after sale and its down to the dealer before that .

If thats so then they wont be paying for a full Hartech rebuild reguardless .. they will look for the cheapest solution .

Hopefully it doesn,t turn out as Delanor has said , he is perfectly correct and i have seen it before unfortunatly ( very good point made ) .. to the point of the company going bankrupt , not paying and setting up a new business the next day

 

[rocket_richard]

The car is a 2005 50,000 mile C2S Chrono with the tip gearbox and in very good condition. It had a full service history and came with 6 months tax and 12 months warranty. For this I paid low twenties and felt pretty happy with the deal.

The warranty gives 'day 1' cover and the claim limit is 'up to the retail value of the vehicle'. I am pretty sure that the warranty will cover the repairs but, maybe not to my standards.

As for a refund, yes, it does rely on the dealer playing ball but, it is an established company with over 25 years of trading history and a good reputation.

I'm not that emotional, I only drove 30 miles in the car so we didn't really bond. However, if I can get this car with the rebuilt engine from Hartech, I think I would have come out not having lost. If not, I will go down the refund route.

 

[easternjets]

Richard there's too much money involved here, walk away and get a refund.
As I said earlier, if the car is rebuilt and you still want it back then come to an arrangement with the seller that you can have it at the price you previously paid for it.
You could be without the car till April waiting for a rebuild.
Everyone on here has given you good advice, don't follow your heart.
Good luck and sorry that your first foray into Porsche ownership is this unfortunate situation.

 

[GARY S]

My decision would be to get a refund & walk away. If it has already had an engine rebuild & that has failed then god knows what other issues there could be lurking there. As people on here have said, plenty of others around. Good luck.