PDK oil change

[Brousseau]

My car is due for the transmission oil change and I understand the sump pan has to be changed because the filter is built into the pan. When I ordered one I was prompted to buy a service kit for £77 in addition to the £220 for the pan. I queried what was in the kit as it lists replacement bolts, a gasket & the filter ?? If the filter is built into the pan why is it also in the service kit & why do the bolts securing the pan need replacing. Has anyone else come up against this? I'd appreciate any guidance, happy to buy what's necessary but seems strange that my indie dealer has not listed this service kit as a requirement if I get them to do it. Am I being unreasonably suspicious here [/b]

 

[deMort]

Service kit probably means the oil .

Post a link to the site please .

If at 12 years then you need the diff fluid changed as well ... these boxes have X2 different oils in them .

 

[Brousseau]

Hi deMort, Thanks for the reply, I was aware but I'm changing transmission oil only as only covered 60k. Oil was additional to sump pan and service kit !

 

[deMort]

very strange then .. if you have a link i'll have a look .

 

[Brousseau]

https://www.design911.co.uk/fu/pt37...911--Carrera-S-2009--/Gearbox-Sump---Oil-Pan/

This is the link to the site, it shows both the genuine sump pan and an aftermarket one, when queried I was emailed, twice that the service kit was required with either and you will see the filter is listed as one of the items within the kit. You will see the oil is also a separate suggested purchase. Thanks for your interest, I want to order the correct item and not be left with 'spares' (0:

 

[deMort]

Might i humbly suggest you phone your local OPC and ask for the price of a Filter kit or sump pan INCLUDING the filter which it would appear D911 are not doing .

It looks to me like the sump pan is bare of filter and seals ..

The service kit looks like a filter , drain and fill bungs , pan seals ..

In this case i don't see why you would need a pan at all ..

Phone opc and confirm as its the best option .. worth getting a quote on the entire job whilst at it .

 

[badbadtz]

I'd also be interested in what the OPC quote for the parts as mine is due the 12yr service this summer which includes the 2 PDK fluid changes and filter.

 

[JSP330]

I'm also in process of researching this and phoning around for quotes. I have to say there seems to be lots of conflicting opinions online and different advice of what needs to be done at 12yrs/120K, (specifically around the pan/filter). I was expecting that more Indies would have done this by now given when the PDKs first came out. I'm in the Oxfordshire area so if anyone has had this done local to me recently I'd appreciate the tip-off.

Autodoc seemed to be coming up with the best price for a complete kit with Pan/Bolts/Fluids/Plug etc Vaico which I think may be OEM? https://www.autodoc.co.uk/vaico/14770127

 

[badbadtz]

I'm also in process of researching this and phoning around for quotes. I have to say there seems to be lots of conflicting opinions online and different advice of what needs to be done at 12yrs/120K, (specifically around the pan/filter). I was expecting that more Indies would have done this by now given when the PDKs first came out. I'm in the Oxfordshire area so if anyone has had this done local to me recently I'd appreciate the tip-off.

Autodoc seemed to be coming up with the best price for a complete kit with Pan/Bolts/Fluids/Plug etc Vaico which I think may be OEM? https://www.autodoc.co.uk/vaico/14770127

The OEM fluid is Fuchs Titan FFL-3 formerly Pentosin... currently £70 for 5ltrs on eBay

 

[ChrisS80]

I also found this a little harder to arrange than I expected.
One specialist said don't bother doing it.
But that didn't feel right as it's in the service schedule so Revolution Porsche Leeds did mine yesterday, both PDK clutch and transmission fluid.

If it helps the parts list was as follows:
Pentosin FFL3
Oil pan complete
Mobil 75w90

All in it was £600 inc vat. The 'Oil pan complete' was 220.69 of that (ex Vat)

 

[jonno_]

I'm also in process of researching this and phoning around for quotes. I have to say there seems to be lots of conflicting opinions online and different advice of what needs to be done at 12yrs/120K, (specifically around the pan/filter). I was expecting that more Indies would have done this by now given when the PDKs first came out. I'm in the Oxfordshire area so if anyone has had this done local to me recently I'd appreciate the tip-off.

Autodoc seemed to be coming up with the best price for a complete kit with Pan/Bolts/Fluids/Plug etc Vaico which I think may be OEM? https://www.autodoc.co.uk/vaico/14770127

JSP - assume you're not using OPC Reading for this.
If you've not found a good local indy, I'd highly recommend checking Wrightune and Northway. Both have many years of 911 expertise and both totally trustworthy and honest.

 

[deMort]

I'll also second Northway .. heard good things about them .

 

[JSP330]

Thanks all for the Indy tips, I'm in active discussions with a couple and will report back, (btw neither of them have been asked for the Pan change previously so bit more research has been required by all parties concerned).

Thanks especially Chris for the details and price from your Indy, that really helps give me a recent reference for when the estimates come in!

I've hijacked a few people's posts this year on this 12yr PDK Service topic, so will provide a summary of my own experience once I've hopefully got it all sorted, given that it does still seem to trigger quizzical looks and debate!

 

[robbiej]

change it, it breaks down like any oil. My gearchange was smother after it was changed

 

[P9XX]

My 2008, 997.2 has just been 12 year serviced with the schedule requiring both PDK clutch and gear oils to be replaced. The Vehicle Health Check came up with "damp with oil around the sump pan". I was unaware of the leak because the undertray had caught the few drips.
This required replacement of the plastic sump which has the gasket built in.
The new sump pan was OE Porsche which comprised the pan with a built-in filter and seal, 13 new fixing screws and new drain plugl. The complete kit also included 6 litres of PDK clutch fluid and 4 litres of 75W90 gear oil.
The total cost was £222.23 for the sump pan, £59.40 for the gear oil and £92.16 for the PDK clutch fluid, all plus VAT. Labour was 1.7 hours on top.