My Carrera 4 Unlucky Accident at Workshop!! Vehicle Ram the shutter and the shutter hit my Car

[simonlin]

Hi! All! Hope all are well!
Just want a bit of advice and thank you in advance for any advice as I wouldn't be able to answer to all advice given. Big Thank you.
The scenario is was my car went in for oil leak check so can be seen too in the next service, and whilst at it had an oil change and was ready for me to pick up the car in the afternoon, but was busy and had to go to work and left it for today Tuesday 13th to pick it up.
The garage unfortunately was rammed in the early hours in the morning by someone and did not steal anything and was suggested they were on drug or high and maybe a stolen vehicle.
The shutter which was rammed has hit my car and cause some damage, but was described as light damage, which I do not know the meaning between light or significant damage.
The advice I need are whether to replace the rear quarter panel or have it to repaired.
I have spoken to the guy at the workshop and he suggested to repair rather than take the rear panel off so keeping the cars originality.
Whether to contact my own Insurance and go through the process to have the repairs done or just let the garage to repair of damage with an Insurance approved repair shop, either way it will get repaired so nothing about monetary.
All the best,
Simon.

 

[FZP]

Ratbags. This will form part of the shops Insurance claim along with the damage to the building.
I can't see a reason that would require a new panel. A pretty straight forward repair for a quality shop.
Sorry for your hassle

 

[pzero]

As per Frank's post, definitely have it sorted through the garage's Insurance and, if possible, keep the original panel.
Good luck.

 

[SilverSurfer13]

That’s terrible to see to what looks like a lovely example.

I wouldn’t see any reason not to get a new panel. Assuming it’s a genuine Porsche part, why wouldn’t you? I’d much rather a consider the purchase of a very clean car, rather than one where the panel has been repaired to the best of the workshops ability with generous amounts of filler.

I’d also consider an alignment check. Hitting the car on their corners, sometimes no matter how lightly that might be, can impact the car structurally. More so with older cars.
I’m assuming that something must’ve hit that rear bumper with enough impact for it to have compressed enough before the object impacted the quarter panel. Then the bumper flexed back out afterwards.

Quite often in these cases, it’s not what you see, it’s the damage that’s been caused beneath the surface.

And lastly, should definitely be covered by the garage’s Insurance.

 

[moo75x]

You would be covered under the garage third party liability extension to their policy so they will be paying - some of those dent specialists are worth their weight in gold these days so perhaps may be worthwhile asking this be explored rather than a traditional bodyshop to use mostly filler. Only trouble is it may still be on the register as its subject of a claim. You may want to check this before settling and ask if a cash settlement can be made so its not registered - not sure if this would keep it off the list.

My garage once twatted my R107 when in for an MOT - they filled it with gobbo and it sank, looked appalling but was always earmarked for new wings as part of a refurb so didnt lose sleep over it.

Sorry for your loss :-(

 

[Luddite]

Jeez, how unfortunate..I guess much depends on the real world value of your Porsche and whether or not it is entirely original in terms of paintwork or bodywork. As been pointed out provided careful inspection determines there are no alignment issues, then any good body shop could perhaps dress the damaged panels and make them look as good as new, or totally replace the damaged panels, and in the process reveal other issues related to corrosion with all that might lead to..?

I guess if your car is close to immaculate in terms of interior trim etc.etc., then there is ever the consideration in terms of loss in value relative to any future sale, as it is will then be a repaired car, hopefully not recorded as such..but..? I suspect it might be best to keep a photographic record of the damage and the repair process in terms of any possible future sale..?

The three air cooled Porsches I owned over the years were all repaired the first a real rot box and had more patches than a home made quilt, still enjoyed it greatly. The other two were newer and also required patches welded in to repair corrosion, also great cars much enjoyed.... I wonder how many "original" air cooled Porsches there out there without paint or panel repairs, and does it really matter to YOU..

Good luck in your choices.

 

[Zingari]

Any decent bodyshop will not use filler to that degree, they'll go for a new panel as it's usually quicker and more effective. I can't remember where the rear quarter panels extends on a 993 but from memory up to the roofline and as such it's not a straightforward job. It's doable but it will come at a cost - their insurer not yours.

I think the old days of plastic padding filler are long gone. Reminds me of a chum who pranged his Spitfire MkIV in the early 80s and decided on a self repair to fix the dent in the rear panel and door. It involved chicken wire, old newspapers and a light skim of plastic padding before a paint job. I have visions of the car being around in the 90s and the owner deciding on a restoration. If nothing else he'll be able to read a 1982 edition of the Daily Mail in his lunch break

 

[jonttt]

As above really needs a new panel but thats a relatively big and expensive job on a 993. Don’t accept a repair to the panel as if not done properly there is a risk of it showing itself in time by shrinkage etc……

It should be covered on the garages Insurance but they may try to avoid putting it through with a cheap repair. It is likely to be recorded on the MID so you will need to declare it as being involved in an accident which will affect your Insurance going forward even though you where not in the car at the time and it was none fault.

 

[mashby]

Check with the garage but it will probably go through their Liability Insurance so not a normal car Insurance. This will not be recorded on MID.
I had our Eriba caravan damaged last year by a dealer and their Liability Insurance covered it. I had to get 2 quotes and submit them. They then paid the money directly to my bank account and left it to me to get it repaired.

 

[PeterHoward]

You're talking a 5 figure sum to repair that properly. Parts are £7K ish

 

[jonttt]

Check with the garage but it will probably go through their Liability Insurance so not a normal car Insurance. This will not be recorded on MID.
I had our Eriba caravan damaged last year by a dealer and their Liability Insurance covered it. I had to get 2 quotes and submit them. They then paid the money directly to my bank account and left it to me to get it repaired.

That sounds like a good point, i would clarify with them what policy they are covering the damage under and whether it would be recorded on the MID or not, you are entitled to know as you would be expected to declare if it is at renewal.

 

[jonttt]

You're talking a 5 figure sum to repair that properly. Parts are £7K ish

That was my fear ie a rear panel replacement is a completely different kettle of fish to a front wing

 

[simonlin]

Hi! All,
Thank you everyone for advices much appreciated.
I spoke to the body shop guy first and he said it's a big job to take all the back panel off as it's attached to the roof and the middle section of the body by the door and not that simple, but he said they would cut out the triangle damage section and replace it ,as they would not fill it up with filler and not possible to pull the damage section, as that will pull the whole section and may damage more of the panel.
He will remove the bumper and the damaged spoiler lid to see first before any work is done. Check the body for any alignment damage as well.
The garage will pay the full repair which ever way I choose.
Hopefully it will return back to pretty the same, as that is the first ever damage or respray on the vehicle since I had it 22 years ago.
Cheers all.

 

[decgraham]

Hi, sorry to hear about your problem. One thing I would ask for from the repair shop, would be for them to provide you with detailed photographs of the repair. Good luck.

ATB

 

[911UK]

Hi! All,
Thank you everyone for advices much appreciated.
I spoke to the body shop guy first and he said it's a big job to take all the back panel off as it's attached to the roof and the middle section of the body by the door and not that simple, but he said they would cut out the triangle damage section and replace it ,as they would not fill it up with filler and not possible to pull the damage section, as that will pull the whole section and may damage more of the panel.
He will remove the bumper and the damaged spoiler lid to see first before any work is done. Check the body for any alignment damage as well.
The garage will pay the full repair which ever way I choose.
Hopefully it will return back to pretty the same, as that is the first ever damage or respray on the vehicle since I had it 22 years ago.
Cheers all.

Still don’t convinced this repair option is the best one