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anotherGT2
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:42 pm    Post subject: 918 in flames at petrol station Reply with quote

Just read this

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Porsche has never been a company to let Ferrari hog all the glory, so when we heard a LaFerrari went up in flames, we knew a Porsche 918 Spyder wouldn't be far behind. This one in Toronto looks like it was engulfed in an inferno, as befitting any proper supercar. And so, it begins.

Judging as how we haven't yet heard of any exploding Canadian gas stations, however, this one might've been put out before the whole establishment combusted in a miniature mushroom cloud. And since it happened at a gas station, it actually is plausible that the fire here originated somewhere with the fueling equipment, rather than the car.

No matter what the cause, there's now one less Porsche 918 Spyder in the world. And for that, we're all a little sad. So pour one out tonight for the dearly departed monster.

Except don't pour out any gasoline. I hear it's flammable.

See next Post BELOW for full media report







Not again Porsche, not again Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FULL MEDIA REPORT


Open Youtube Page


ouch, of all the places to have a fire !!


but clearly trying to outdo the LaFerrari that had a minor fire


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad to see nooo
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like most are assuming it's 'user error' with the fuel filler being so close to the exhaust. I'd not have thought of that as a problem but looking at it it is very close, surely Porsche would have thought about/ tested this scenario?


I guess more information will follow but this is potentially quite embarrassing for Porsche after the red-hot GT3 fiasco.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear............!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Such a waste! Surely not a manufacturer issue.......mental if it is.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imp75 wrote:
Such a waste! Surely not a manufacturer issue.......mental if it is.


That would never happen.........
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CCTV footage apparently shows the owner using a squeegee to mop some spilled fuel from the side of the car - seems that some of it got into contact with a hot bit triggering the inferno. Whatever the cause of the spillage it would appear the owner was a bit unfortunate in his attempts to protect his paintwork nooo

News clip here: http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.2029571
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That will put the insurance premiums up for pork in the Toronta area.... Cool
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like an insurance Scam to me, couldn't be that hard to fill it with fuel could it Question
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somebody suggests fuel will not ignite off an exhaust manifold.

http://www.swissforensic.org/presentations/assets/mfiaignition.pdf

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CCTV footage apparently shows the owner using a squeegee to mop some spilled fuel from the side of the car - seems that some of it got into contact with a hot bit triggering the inferno. Whatever the cause of the spillage it would appear the owner was a bit unfortunate in his attempts to protect his paintwork nooo

News clip here: http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.2029571

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Static discharge can ignite petrol vapour. If it was an accident this was probably the cause.

Although small in number, these fires happened when over 90 % of drivers were wearing rubber soled footwear while filling up.... Re trainers and the likes.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People assume the car had a fault that caused the fire. The fact it was being fuelled at the time of the fire and that the owner was messing about with a fuel spillage all points to an accident caused by the owner or whomever soiled the fuel.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isysman wrote:
People assume the car had a fault that caused the fire. The fact it was being fuelled at the time of the fire and that the owner was messing about with a fuel spillage all points to an accident caused by the owner or whomever soiled the fuel.


im not sure that's mitigation?
I as have almost every person on this forum spilled fuel at some time down our cars, either from a careless moment, or from a back pressure from the fuel pump,and suffered no fire, either way a Porsche should not catch fire if over filled or if the owner was a bit clumsy, this should fall under research and development, and H&S
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seen this happen before on a 918. Daft place to put exhaust
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMI A wrote:
Daft place to put exhaust


Daft to put the fuel filler near it, but there are actually good engineering reasons for it to be there (including weight, distribution, size and thermal dissipation - keeps it well away from the batteries and electric motors and keeps the pipe lengths as short as possible). It wasn't moved from the side on the prototype to the top for purely aesthetic reasons.... Hand
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might seem cynical but this sort of thing is ok by me. I work for the Fire and Rescue Service so this sort of story warms the cockles of my heart - and keeps me in a job. Get Me Coat
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Engine at the rear ........ fuel filler a the front ........ engine at the front ........ fuel filler at the rear ....... simples.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madalaa wrote:
Engine at the rear ........ fuel filler a the front ........ engine at the front ........ fuel filler at the rear ....... simples.


Or the Lotus Esprit way:

Engine in the middle... seats in front of the engine... a fuel tank wedged between each seat and the engine bay... a fuel filler both sides just behind the driver and passenger windows... and engine air vents so close to the windows the smell of petrol is always there...

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear............! horrible
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