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Beware Insurance Quote Trick

cheshire911

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I received a flyer from Adrian Flux who I understand are specialists for high performance and classic cars. I had approached them for an Insurance quote last year but did not take a policy from them. They had obviously retained my details so the usual direct marketing - offering '5 great reasons to come back to Adrian Flux'. I should add they do not advertise on this Forum and I think it was on Piston Heads where I may have seen them.

When I rang them, I was surprised to be asked what I paid for the car.
I said it was irrelevant and that I have an independent valuation which I am happy to share and supply. The salesman said we ask what you paid for it and then we ask what its worth. I said what I paid for it is irrelevant and that the only reason why this is asked in my view is so that in the event of a total loss the insurer argues and knocks down the agreed valuation. It is of no relevance to ask what the car was purchased for - I may have received the car free as an inheritance or I may have paid a bankrupt director £1 for the car.

At that point it got heated, I told them I would never deal with them or anyone else that asks such a question and told them never to contact me again. I said that I thought this asking for what a person paid for a car is wholly irrelevant as the Insurance is undertaken on the basis of a valuation not a purchase price.

I will NEVER have anything to do with them again and have sent them an email instructing them to remove me from their marketing database and to confirm in writing when they have done so.

BEWARE guys anyone who asks during a quotation process what you paid for the car. Valuing a Porsche when assessing a claim is not like opening a Glass's or CAP Guide for a Ford Mondeo as each car has to be judged on history, condition, mileage and specification. That's the reason for me to have opted for an Agreed Valuation basis in the event of a total loss. What the car was purcahsed for does not and should not come into it when assessing for an Insurance quotation.

(Edited to give further clarity)
 
Sounds good advice, thanks for sharing.

Do most insurers let you have an agreed valuation ? I mean is it a common option and if so do they load the premium for such an option ? i.e charge you more for the privilege.
 
My experience is that most high street insurers do not offer agreed valuation unless your car is a true "classic".

If you want to choose agreed valuation you are better considering specialist brokers (some advertise on this site). If you are prepared to limit the mileage per annum, meet terms and conditions (some may impose a condition that the car has to be garaged and/or fitted with a tracker), have an independent valuation carried out (perhaps at a fee) and submit photos and mileage declaration then there is an additional cost to this in any case. I do not know what premium loading is applied (if any).

But it is worth considering if you look around at what your prized possession that you searched high and low for would cost to replace in a total loss and ask yourself if "market valuation" will cover it. If you know someone in the trade, ask them to look up their trade bible on what the market value would be for a dealer supplied and private purchase example. You might be shocked at a low market valuation figure!
 
why not just say what you think its worth. seems a bit of a storm in a teacup to be honest.
 
paul_mck said:
why not just say what you think its worth. seems a bit of a storm in a teacup to be honest.

I would imagine in the event of a claim they will ask you to prove what you paid for it , and if that differs from what you told them then they have a reason to reject your claim.
 
cant really see it can you? sure you could have paid with cash/p-ex/swap/cows anything.
 
Could it not just have been the person you spoke to got up your nose? :dont know:
I've got an agreed valuation multicar policy with Adrian Flux and they cover all the mods to all my cars.

They never asked what I paid for it but of course they did ask what I thought it was worth.

I've never had a problem with them to be honest and would recommend them over several others. In fact I would go so far as to say that the Insurance process with them was the most pleasant of any I've ever dealt with.

Having a modified car can scare some insurers off but AF welcome it with open arms.

Plus their premiums aren't any higher if you've got modifications.

:thumb:
 
I can't see why they bothered asking. I would have just told them and picked through the small print.

In the event of a claim they should put you back in the position you were in pre accident, i.e. pay you "market value" for the car. Your valuation is an indication of the market value of your particular car, so who cares what you paid for it?! You clearly don't want to haggle over this figure hence going for an agreed value policy.

Unless the wording of the policy states "in the event of a claim we will pay you what you originally paid for the car" which I've never heard of before but is entirely possible.
 
This is a very interesting point Cheshire911 makes. I have just signed up with Adrian Flux, but I can't remember if they asked me this question; I assume they must have. Thing is owning a Porsche means the value can be wildly different from year to year. If a guy who bought new a GT3RS 4.0 has it stolen, is the price he paid for it relevant as it's value now does not reflect that original price paid. So the OP's point is why would they need to know? Are they going to say that even though current prices are near to £300k because you paid £140k or whatever the new price was that the claimant is only entitled to the original sale price? Of course he is not. If I buy that same car now for £300k and it is stolen am I now entitled to £300k because that's what I paid?

On a different point, I did agree a value with them when I took out my policy so I'd hope that should the worst happen they won't try to break that deal.
 

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