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GT4
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm. interesting, seems they are shipping them complete now (between airbox and manifolds)

Perhaps non-warranty work (ie retail purchase) gives the option of "naked" engine (or perhaps that was just the penny-pinching 996 way Question )

I can see if Porsche are picking up the whole bill it simply isn't worth their while (no savings) to output a partial engine anymore given the engines are built on a production line and then pay a service centre to strip old and repopulate new.

Part no: 997.100.997





(NB: that second one is an M97.01 X51 block / 997.100.997.1X)
 
  
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steve baker
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT4 wrote:
Hmm. interesting, seems they are shipping them complete now (between airbox and manifolds)

Perhaps non-warranty work (ie retail purchase) gives the option of "naked" engine (or perhaps that was just the penny-pinching 996 way Question )

I can see if Porsche are picking up the whole bill it simply isn't worth their while (no savings) to output a partial engine anymore given the engines are built on a production line and then pay a service centre to strip old and repopulate new.

Part no: 997.100.997





(NB: that second one is an M97.01 X51 block / 997.100.997.1X)


Nice! Thumb Would like one of them myself but not under OP's cicumstances. Thankfully all sorted now.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just read through all of this and cannot believe you have had to go through what you have.

I have a pdk with sports chrono, does this mean I cannot over rev? I remember hitting the limiter once when sports plus was activated and I know this raises the rev limit.

What would this record?
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Epic thread, ending with a good and very just conclusion. Now go and enjoy........ Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scottyc wrote:
Just read through all of this and cannot believe you have had to go through what you have.

I have a pdk with sports chrono, does this mean I cannot over rev? I remember hitting the limiter once when sports plus was activated and I know this raises the rev limit.

What would this record?


You can defiantly over rev a PDK, but i am not sure to what range. Might be worth a search. I know the standard auto boxes have recorded upto range 5. Its quiet possible that a bump on the limiter would only register a 2 or less. I'm probably going to buy the Durametric tool so i can check my car myself.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterg1965 wrote:
Epic thread, ending with a good and very just conclusion. Now go and enjoy........ Very Happy


And enjoy it i have. Put on about 1000 miles since last Thursday. Laughing
 
  
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peterg1965
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AeroAnt wrote:
peterg1965 wrote:
Epic thread, ending with a good and very just conclusion. Now go and enjoy........ Very Happy


And enjoy it i have. Put on about 1000 miles since last Thursday. Laughing


That's some going, I have only put 3600 miles on my 640d in nine months!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AeroAnt wrote:
Scottyc wrote:
Just read through all of this and cannot believe you have had to go through what you have.

I have a pdk with sports chrono, does this mean I cannot over rev? I remember hitting the limiter once when sports plus was activated and I know this raises the rev limit.

What would this record?


You can defiantly over rev a PDK, but i am not sure to what range. Might be worth a search. I know the standard auto boxes have recorded upto range 5. Its quiet possible that a bump on the limiter would only register a 2 or less. I'm probably going to buy the Durametric tool so i can check my car myself.


I dont understand this. On a manual, you can't really overrev it on the way up because the limiter kicks in. A serious overrev can only be if you select too low a gear and drop the clutch, so the engine gets spun up by the momentum of the car. On a PDK/tip, you just can't do that. On the way up the box it will change up before it lets you overrev, on the way down if you tell it to change down and the result would be an overrev, it's just going to ignore you. So how can you overrev an auto?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a few posters have said, this is an epic tale over the past couple of months and is a salutary lesson - both about how to achieve a successful outcome (AeroAnt’s zen-like calm and quiet persistence in the face of not only the response from Porsche after two days of ownership but also some of the stick he’s received on here is quite astonishing) but also about how to swim against a wave of technical mis-direction and still reach the other side.

Like northeast canuck I too have had a snapped gear cable and a trip on a recovery truck within the first few days of ownership. I suspect that it’s just one of these things/a result of me switching this car from being the previous owner’s ‘sunshine-only toy’ to my daily driver but when I collect the car from the indy tomorrow (Peter at Motortune ) he and I will have another long conversation about what to think about and what to look out for. Oh, and when I see the warranty paperwork (not from Porsche) it is going to have to be rock-solid or else.

A shame that on top of everything else we have to become barrack-room lawyers in dealing with what ought to be everyday matters. Hope that time spent finally with his car (and its’ new engine, variocam and cat) will eventually dull the pain of the last few months for AeroAnt.
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