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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just bought 5L, mobile one for £50.00 pretty good instead of buying it per L.
I am going to put some in now and hope it is okay.

added 1L this morning, then another 3 L now... still on 1 bar flashing...
going to wait another hour and out 2 more L in.
I must have been very low..
shame its all coming out next week, waste of money. Grin

gutted it aint rising...
I started it up sounded nice, no ticking noise that I used to have just want the oil to rise.
I can see my left tank is a bit low also, passed the min, man I need to start looking a bit more instead of driving it.
Anyone know the level of the left hand tank?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martian wrote:
Gibbo205 wrote:
...I am sure its fine but its not Porsche approved......


Lots of things which are higher spec/quality than standard never get the Porsche approved moniker.

Michelin Pilot Super Sports aren't Porsche approved (yet), but it doesn't stop OPC's selling them and the Experience Centre using them!

And the approved viscosity for a Carrera is 0W/40, not 5W/40.


That's not true.

As engines wear, OPCs advise higher winter (cold) viscosities, as can be seen in the approved list.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

job done Smile

4L Smile

Ding Dang Do
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a very small sump.

Is it full of bearings Question
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

black911 wrote:
job done Smile

4L Smile

Ding Dang Do


How is that even possible?
You have an electronic level which gives you the level every morning, do you not look at it?

I keep mine one below max always and on max for track days.

I feel for your engine, it's surrey been running way too low for months unless yours drinks oil at a high rate or something is wrong with the car?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think it was that low tbh, I was doing it in stages and left it on flat for a while after a warm tickover then all done, its full now so.. should be okay.

anyhow my 63-7001 kit came today so am going to crack on with it tomorrow, cant wait for the results and get my fan rs fan unit back in.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gibbo205 wrote:
black911 wrote:
job done Smile

4L Smile

Ding Dang Do


How is that even possible?
You have an electronic level which gives you the level every morning, do you not look at it?

I keep mine one below max always and on max for track days.

I feel for your engine, it's surrey been running way too low for months unless yours drinks oil at a high rate or something is wrong with the car?



When you max, what is it exactly, looking at the oil gauge should it be total full or is max not including the top notch giving the bottom flashes and top flashes for warning? sorry i have no idea.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can we note the chassis number, just so we can eliminate Porsche from our investigations when the next owner pops up on here in three years time with a blown engine.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

black911 wrote:
Gibbo205 wrote:
black911 wrote:
job done Smile

4L Smile

Ding Dang Do


How is that even possible?
You have an electronic level which gives you the level every morning, do you not look at it?

I keep mine one below max always and on max for track days.

I feel for your engine, it's surrey been running way too low for months unless yours drinks oil at a high rate or something is wrong with the car?



When you max, what is it exactly, looking at the oil gauge should it be total full or is max not including the top notch giving the bottom flashes and top flashes for warning? sorry i have no idea.



Look at this



The lower Mark flashing is very bad news, even more so to the fact it must have been like this for months for it too take 3-4l of oil to get it upto maximum.

Get your engine inspected as in bores for scoring and also when the oil is done pull the old filter apart and inspect it for metal shaving.

You should aim to have the oil gauge at least halfway and one below maximum, I check mine every morning without fail as it only takes 6s to look.

I'm amazed you don't and I feel sorry for your engine and really hope no damage is caused as you must have been driving with the oil dangerously low for a very long time and I'd be alarmed as to where 4l vanished too as well?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

na its not a big issue, I spoke to Porsche and they didnt seem to think it was to bad they just said add some oil and it will be fine.

I did it and all good car is great again, I never got any warnings just I noticed it when i was talking after putting the key in.

engine inspections.. shavings.. Sad naaa its just low oil lol.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT4 wrote:
Can we note the chassis number, just so we can eliminate Porsche from our investigations when the next owner pops up on here in three years time with a blown engine.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

black911 wrote:
job done Smile

4L Smile

Ding Dang Do


Didn't you put 3L in then another 1L then said you were going to put another 2L in?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you remember to put the sump plug back Question
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, way to many people on this forum shite themselves about engine failure.
stop worrying guys and start driving I thrash the hell out of my 997s daily, if it breaks I fix it? no problem I have a gold warranty, wouldn't even pick the phone and waste my time.

from what I hear, the Porsche that get used.. are fine, its the garage queens or old dudes that end up with engine failure, having said that surly all this crying about "will Porsche help" i see, hand in pockets and pay for it.. shouldn't be driving Porsches if you cant afford the mods or problems when they happen.
Can i do this... no it will invalid the warranty..
Can I do this to my own car... no it will invalid the warranty..

don't mean to offend just fed up of people who live there life around warrants and engine failures.. Thumb

ffs low oil is not the end of the world
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

black911 wrote:
na its not a big issue, I spoke to Porsche and they didnt seem to think it was to bad they just said add some oil and it will be fine.

I did it and all good car is great again, I never got any warnings just I noticed it when i was talking after putting the key in.

engine inspections.. shavings.. Sad naaa its just low oil lol.


No its just low oil when you need a 1/2 litre top up maximum, which is the most you will ever need if you look at the guage Porsche kindly put in our cars.

You've added 4l of oil, this say to me that the oil level has either been low for a long time or recently your car has started to drink oil at a high rate, either way it needs looking into.

These engines are designed to run with circa 8l of oil to ensure everything recieves maximum protection and lubrication. Your engine had only half of this as you've added 4l of oil to get the oil guage registering again, so you've been driving you car for what is no doubt months with very low oil level.

As such your engine wear rate has increased considerably whilst the oil has been so low.

You say Porsche said its OK and its just low oil, then I ask if its OK then how come Porsche don't just put 4l of oil in our engines from the factory as you seem to think its nothing to worry about.


I might be ***** but I religiously check mine every morning, I keep it on maximum, so all segments lit up bar one, if I do a track day I add 200-300ml to get all the segments lit up, this is advisable for track use as the Carrera does not use a dry sump. I like to give my engine the best possible protection by keep the oil level where it should be and I change the oil and filter every 6000 miles.

Now your car has either been running on very low for a very long time or its recently found a thirst for oil and is drinking it very quick. Either way get the engine looked at. A bore inspection is easy and inspecting the old filter is easy, surely you want to protect your engine and not take any risk?

Yes I drive my car hard and enjoy it, I do track days, but at the same time I look after it like its my babe, its over serviced, never revved over 3000rpm until 92c on oil is reach and it only ever drinks Vpower.
Yes I have a warranty so if it breaks yes they will fix it, but I still give the car the care and attention it deserves as if I did not have a warranty because I'd rather nothing broke on it and my car is used daily so for it to break would be stressful.

Is your car under warranty? If so what do Porsche think of all the GT3 bits, plenums your thinking of adding etc?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An Isambard Kingdom Brunel for the 21st century if ever I saw one Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

black911 wrote:
lol, way to many people on this forum shite themselves about engine failure.
stop worrying guys and start driving I thrash the hell out of my 997s daily, if it breaks I fix it? no problem I have a gold warranty, wouldn't even pick the phone and waste my time.

ffs low oil is not the end of the world


This has nothing to do with Porsche design issues or people shitting themselves about it, you have run a performance car on less than half the oil it should have for a considerable amount of time.

Can you really not see that's a problem? You seem to be trying to bluff your way through a situation that's pretty embarrassing by shouting at people about unrelated issues.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as I said the warranty came with the car and I changed the rear deck that makes any warranty useless, does not bother me one bit.
Its my car, not Porsches Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone else noticed how much quieter their engine is when it's filled with oil?

Screw Oettle, open the taps (on the sump) and let the unhindered symphony of (momentarily) reciprocating parts brighten your day Thumb

When you need to quieten down, say on returning home at 3am and considerately not wishing to wake the neighbours, simply pour fine grade sawdust into the filler neck - always worked a treat on the Vauxhall gearboxes (and they were filled from the factory like that).

I am thinking of rigging up some form of remote control (probably via rods or cable and pulleys) to deploy the PSE (Porsche Sawdust Enema) from the driver's seat.

Keep a look out for the FAQ.
 
  
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