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Tony 991S
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is more weight in that door card than in my current family Animal transportation device Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad


New car allegedly 50 kilo's lighter than the 997 Smile
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry to say that I don't think there is anything special or exciting about the way it looks. I'm quite disappointed nooo
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rimmer wrote:
PabloAU wrote:
There is more weight in that door card than in my current family Animal transportation device Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad


New car allegedly 50 kilo's lighter than the 997 Smile


That's after spending a fortune on turining the 911 into aluminium.

Imagine the weight loss with thin door cards.

Perhaps the GT3 will get cable door pulls?
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT4 wrote:
Rimmer wrote:
PabloAU wrote:
There is more weight in that door card than in my current family Animal transportation device Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad


New car allegedly 50 kilo's lighter than the 997 Smile


That's after spending a fortune on turining the 911 into aluminium.

Imagine the weight loss with thin door cards.

Perhaps the GT3 will get cable door pulls?


As the French have said in the past....
"Plus ca change, plus cést la meme chose "..........

The more I read the more I sense "Porsche by VW"......
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's after spending a fortune on turining the 911 into aluminium.


And the problem with that is Question
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I chundered all over my keyboard when i saw the back.


Seriously. All over it.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quite like it. Don't feel an overwhelming desire to own one but I'm sure it'll be a cracking car.

Hopefully they'll give it 400bhp minimum so the new Cayman can start at 350, where it's needed to be from day one.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rimmer wrote:
GT4 wrote:
That's after spending a fortune on turining the 911 into aluminium.


And the problem with that is Question


Nothing, well apart from the cost of repair, the skills required in repair, the ease of denting etc etc, but nothing with regards to the point I was trying to make.

Think how much lighter (and hence how much faster and more nimble and better fuel economy) it would have without the door cards, centre console barge et al.

The ally body-in-white is probably at least 100kgs lighter (if not approaching 150kgs).

The like-for-like BIW comparison of aluminium to steel (ie if you simply made a 997 in ally vs a 997 in steel) is worth another 2 mpg on average alone.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just saw the new site header and tbh I'm not overly impressed.

2 things look straight off a Aston Martin...rear lights and wheels. Come one Porsche where has your creativity gone???
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me it is getting away from the original concept of small/compact sports car etc. GT car springs to mind, as when you look at the rear with the boot shut line high, looks very chunky/928 ish/old hat.

I am sure lots of people will buy, but doubt I will purchase a 991, so might skip it and see what it's replacement might be years down the line.

Now it's part of VW the bean counters will take over and say, oh we reduced production costs by 5p, because we have gone all panamera etc inside, despite the fact you have reduced the appeal by 20 percent. (Never a good thing when accounts have imput, as having delt with so many over the years, they (but not all) are as dull as ditch water. Only had one accountant who drove a 911, so had sometime for him. Sorry if there are any accountants on here.

Anyway just my opinion for what it's worth, so guess i'll wait for the pasting from everyone else.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris W wrote:

2 things look straight off a Aston Martin...rear lights and wheels. Come one Porsche where has your creativity gone???


On the positive side, the Aston Martin is a gorgeous looking car.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just have to wait to see what the turbo/GT2/GT3/GT3RS variants are like as in vanilla form piled high and sold not so cheaply by VW, sorry Porsche, it doesn't look too exciting.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it, it's still very close to the original 996 which is just such a superb flowing timeless classic design. Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be interested to see if the actual production cars sit that low on the wheels - other than the GT cars, most 997's (& Boxster/Caymans) look positively "off road" with the amount of air under the arches?
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder what a wide-bodied version would look like.....Come on ResB, do your thing.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wonder what a wide-bodied version would look like.....Come on ResB, do your thing.

~ Maxie


+1, would be great to visualise the 4S, maybe even the Turbo as well thumbsup
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can only imagine what Clarkson is going to say.....?

I wonder if those wheels are 20 inch...? They look pretty big, eh..?
I quite like the side view of the car - it looks quite bullish with the apparently higher door line and what seem to be slightly smaller windows.

But it's that interior that spoils it for me - and a few others by the sounds of it. What a shame!

I think that Porsche do listen to the public as they seem to have heeded peoples views on the PDK buttons and offered the paddles. But it's going to take a lot to make that interior look like it belongs in one of the worlds most iconic sports cars! A 4*4 maybe but it just looks too 'high' to me.

Having said that, I seem to remember the transmission tunnel on all the TVRs were very high too... Question
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yuk Yuk Yuk

What have they done to the rear end ?Out Out Out Out Out

Not nice IMHO - Some one needs the "Bat" for that treatment..... pure Panamera...........
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