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Stuart
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:13 pm    Post subject: 40k on a GT3, which one would you choose? Reply with quote

Hypothetically ofcourse. I'm just speculating and saw these advertised. Which 1 would you go for?

The MKI is slightly over priced and the MKII looks a good buy, money wise that is.

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42,000 miles
£39,995
2005/55 PORSCHE 996 GT3 THIS ONE OWNER EXAMPLE HAS TO BE ONE OF THE VERY BEST SET UP EXAMPLES.FITTED WITH MOTON 3 WAY ADJUSTABLE SUSPENTION FITTED BY TECH 9,6 POT PORSCHE FRONT BRAKE CA;IPERS WITH UP RATED FRONT DISC AND PADS,SPORTS EXHAUST,PORSCHE REAR BOLT IN ROLL CAGE,NOMEX PORSCHE CRESTED BUCKET SEATS WITH 6 POINT HARNESSES,RED BELTS,FULL SERVICE HISTORY,PAINT PROTECTION,AN EXHILIRATING AND VERY REWARDING EXAMPLE






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48,000 miles
£39,950
DOR: August 1999

Mileage: 48,515

History: Full Porcshe Main Dealer and GT3 specialist JZ Machtech Service History with comprehensive documented history file.

Specification:

Clubsport package






OR, to throw somethingh else in the mix...

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14,000 miles
£36,995
Pristine Low Mileage Example of a future classic.
Only 14,000 miles - road use only. No track use.
Owned by Meticulous Porsche Enthusiast. LEFT HAND DRIVE.
2004 Vehicle.

SPECIFICATION INCLUDES:

Immaculate Black bodywork; Full Black Leather Sport Seats; Comfort Pack; Ceramic Brakes; RS Suspension; RS Rear Wing; Carbon Pack; Colour Coded Centre console and seat backs; Air conditioning; Cd Player; White Dials; Litronic Xenon Headlights.






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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would you be buying it to drive it or to put it in the garage, polish it & worry about residual values Question

If the former I would go for the mk2 left hooker. Most of your miles will be either on a track or on the way to the Nurburgring anyway!
 
  
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2004 Porsche 996 GT3 Mk2

PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The red MKII Stuart, all day long.

Those Motons are circa £7.5K fitted and are absolutely the muts nuts. The suspension is the first thing to go on these cars & 40K miles is when it happens. I see it has PF's fitted so it should be good to go straight on track.

MKI is very nice but will be getting to the point where you'll have to spend a bit with Chris to sort the suspension & worn bushes.

The left-hooker is a comfort and so is unsuitable for serious track work without a cage & harnesses. You'd also want to change out the ceramics for PF's & that'll cost £2K.

Also it may be a bit a slow mover when you come to sell on.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

didn't notice the left hooker was a comfort Paper Bag

I'd agree on the red mk2...
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not the wrong hand drive one Laughing

Prob the Mk2...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red Mk11, out of those

As said the Motons arent cheap and its a late car as well
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's say the condition of each car is the same (bodywork).

I would be going for the MK1. Grin

I know I have one and it's all the 'MK1 is original' crap ! But they are getting rare, and not only this I love the look of the MK1 to the MK2.

If I did not love the MK1 as much, it would be down to the 'buy on condition' message.

You just thinking Stuart ????? Hand
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously the MKI is the better looking and rarer, especially as it's a true clubsport. It does have history hence I know it's overpriced, it's been for sale for around 6months already...

The MKII ticks all the boxes but is a comfort with all the best track mods already added. Plus it's from a well respected and knowledgeable dealer.

The LHD states 'RS suspension'??? Potentially this is a good buy, it would only take cage, seats and harness to be comparable to the red MKII?

Here's something else to throw in the mix...

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2004 (04 reg)Coupe23,400 milesManualEngine sizePetrol
2 Doors, Manual, Coupe, Petrol, 23,400 miles, Metallic Grey, MOT-05-2011. Insurance Group:20, Porsche Reading and Guildford service history from new and will be serviced prior to sale, stunning dark grey metallic with totally unmarked black and silver Porsche carbon fibre sports seats, totally unmarked alloys with very good tyres all round, climate control, remote central locking alarm with all spare keys x3, electric windows and mirrors, cd stereo, cruise control, this car has had very minor damage and is on catt d, we have all the invoices and pictures before repair was carried out, when you see the pictures you will not believe how minor the work was, should never have gone on the register, i have sold cars for over 20 years and this car is in seriously good condition, drives and runs perfect.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cat D wouldn't bother me if the repair was good and the price was right. If it's a track car then actually that's a good thing as it can't be cat D'd twice! Laughing
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senoj wrote:
Cat D wouldn't bother me if the repair was good and the price was right. If it's a track car then actually that's a good thing as it can't be cat D'd twice! Laughing


Not that it matters of course

But it most certainly can be declared Cat D more than once
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what I meant was that it probably only affect the value once.
 
  
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2004 Porsche 996 GT3 Mk2

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuart wrote:

The LHD states 'RS suspension'??? Potentially this is a good buy, it would only take cage, seats and harness to be comparable to the red MKII?


Mmm, RS suspension doesn't mean a lot without knowing if that includes the front hub carriers, which is one of the main differences. Why has it got RS suspension? Was it crashed into a roundabout & that's what was available s/h? I'd still go for the Moton equipped car as the suspension is way more sophisticated than anything that the factory provided on a 996.

The brakes won't last too long if you track it so you will be into expense there also.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Stuart

This one: http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=58555

It's got the Manthey KW's too.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elite Detailing wrote:
Hi Stuart

This one: http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=58555

It's got the Manthey KW's too.

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it's a MK2, deep down Stuart is a MK1 man.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be buying the MK1 - Guards Red, Clubsport, what's not to like?

I can appreciate how good the MK2 is technically, but the looks of the MK1 would win it for me, somehow looks a more 'resolved' design, plus rare as hell these days.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anotherGT2 wrote:
I'd be buying the MK1 - Guards Red, Clubsport, what's not to like?


There has to be a reason it's been sat around for 6 months, so all may not be as it appears.
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You gelled with your overgrown TT yet Gav?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NXI20 wrote:
anotherGT2 wrote:
I'd be buying the MK1 - Guards Red, Clubsport, what's not to like?


There has to be a reason it's been sat around for 6 months, so all may not be as it appears.
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You gelled with your overgrown TT yet Gav?


It had a 'run in' with a kerb in last years snow, OS front suspension replaced???? Plus at that mileage and condition it's over priced.

All this is speculation. I have to agree that the MKII looks the best buy.

G, that manthey KW is nice, but given the choice between motons and KW I'd have to chose moton.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NXI20 wrote:
anotherGT2 wrote:
I'd be buying the MK1 - Guards Red, Clubsport, what's not to like?


There has to be a reason it's been sat around for 6 months, so all may not be as it appears.
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You gelled with your overgrown TT yet Gav?



True, to be honest I didn't read all of the ad, just the top line. I just love the look of the MK1s, the wing is a piece of art.


Still getting used to the TT. The gearing keeps catching me out, 2nd almost seems too short, although when you get it right it's a pretty satisfying car to drive quickly. The 4wd still feels a bit alien to me, the way it puts the power down out of corners is strange when you can feel the front end digging in. It could definitely do with another 50-100hp to get it moving properly. I realised this yesterday when following a 599 down the A3 Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should've gone for the V10 Very Happy

(They don't spontaneously combust any more, do they?)
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now the V10 really is a hugely overgrown TT !.....those in the know say that
although it's a bit slower (well, ok it's quite a bit slower)..the 8 cylinder car
is the sweeter drive..
Looking out the window 4WD looks like a whole lot of sense (well for now
anyway) !!! Grin
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