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whoareya
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this car is not

Cat C rebuild/cut'n'shut/Albanian import

Then I am seriously pissed-off.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this car is mechanically sound, nice colour/spec but cosmetically tatty your mate was in the right place at the right time.

i suspect the car would have acheived in excess of £10k on fleabay.
 
  
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Niall996
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say, selling a 996 that is in any way decent condition for less than 10K is a bit ridiculous. I would never give mine away like that. I'd either store it away in the garage or strip it down and use it for track days or do some sort of hobby project with it. But selling a car like that with so much performance and quality for 8.5K doesn't make sense at all.

I can only imagine that some of these 'giveaway' fire sales are because the owners concerned have hit particularly hard times and need cash fast. And one man's pain will always be another man's gain. But even that doesn't explain the actions of a seller giving away a car that could have achived a higher price

There's an article in the latest 911&Porsche World were on of the contirbutors has just bought a sub £20K 996. Clearly, if there are good sub 10K cars out there he's a foolish buyer and was ripped off by the dealer.

The reality is that there all sorts of mischevious posts on forums and various mythical tales of mates getting this or that. It all tends to unravel when one actually tries to go out and find one of these sub 10K 996's in decent condition. They suddenly don't exist.

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Niall996
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201044372363956/sort/priceasc/usedcars/price-from/8000/price-to/10000/model/911/make/porsche/radius/1501/quicksearch/true/page/1/postcode/wc2h7la?logcode=p

Oh look. I managed to find a sub £10K 996.

Niall
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Niall996 wrote:
I have to say, selling a 996 that is in any way decent condition for less than 10K is a bit ridiculous. I would never give mine away like that. I'd either store it away in the garage or strip it down and use it for track days or do some sort of hobby project with it. But selling a car like that with so much performance and quality for 8.5K doesn't make sense at all.

I can only imagine that some of these 'giveaway' fire sales are because the owners concerned have hit particularly hard times and need cash fast. And one man's pain will always be another man's gain. But even that doesn't explain the actions of a seller giving away a car that could have achived a higher price

There's an article in the latest 911&Porsche World were on of the contirbutors has just bought a sub £20K 996. Clearly, if there are good sub 10K cars out there he's a foolish buyer and was ripped off by the dealer.

The reality is that there all sorts of mischevious posts on forums and various mythical tales of mates getting this or that. It all tends to unravel when one actually tries to go out and find one of these sub 10K 996's in decent condition. They suddenly don't exist.

Niall


Spot onthey do not exist in reality, there was one recently believe it or not sold for £6500 but it had starship miles 260K, still agreat buy though for someone.
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rottenbend
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Niall996 wrote:
The reality is that there all sorts of mischevious posts on forums and various mythical tales of mates getting this or that. It all tends to unravel when one actually tries to go out and find one of these sub 10K 996's in decent condition. They suddenly don't exist.

Niall


Niall

Thanks for insulting my integrity in your first post on the forum Thumb.

This deal is one hundred percent genuine. I'll post pictures of the car once I get a chance. Why would I fabricate such a convoluted story - what purpose would it serve? I think my neighbour has done a great deal and thought others on this forum may be interested. I don't think it's a fair indication of the value of the car either but the car sold for £8.5k like it or not.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a flying saucer for 2p once.
 
  
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Niall996
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for insulting my integrity in your first post on the forum .



Sorry to insult you. I genuinely meant that as a general comment about spurious posts rather than yours specifically. But if the car is a decent 911, that sort of money is ridiculous and completely unrepresentative of the market for good early 996's. But that doesn't mean there aren't exeptional instances of bizarre transactions. So please do post pics on this car. If it's a good one I think I'll buy it off your friend myself and he's quids in.

Niall
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT4 wrote:
I bought a flying saucer for 2p once.


I used to get 4 black jacks or fruit salads for 1p. Question

How times have changed. Surprised
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rottenbend
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Niall996 wrote:
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Thanks for insulting my integrity in your first post on the forum .



Sorry to insult you. I genuinely meant that as a general comment about spurious posts rather than yours specifically. But if the car is a decent 911, that sort of money is ridiculous and completely unrepresentative of the market for good early 996's. But that doesn't mean there aren't exeptional instances of bizarre transactions. So please do post pics on this car. If it's a good one I think I'll buy it off your friend myself and he's quids in.

Niall


Welcome to the forum Very Happy

No probs - to be honest I shouldn't have thrown my toys out of the pram. It's very easy to read something into someone's post that isn't actually there Thumb

Oh and it has crossed my mind to offer £9.5k for the car and have it myself - i don't think he will part with it though.
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greatdane
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Niall996 wrote:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201044372363956/sort/priceasc/usedcars/price-from/8000/price-to/10000/model/911/make/porsche/radius/1501/quicksearch/true/page/1/postcode/wc2h7la?logcode=p

Oh look. I managed to find a sub £10K 996.

Niall


Looks like it could need a bit of TLC .. Surprised
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about this?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1999-PORSCHE-911-CARRERA-SILVER-My-pride-and-Joy-/120643875263?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1c16ef71bf

It is difficult to price 996s at the moment. I am looking for one, hopefully a 3.6. But I have recently noticed on ebay that 997s have sold for 25K. So who would buy a standard 996 for circa 20K?

Furthermore 996s are not selling eg:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270649028659

and that seems to be a very reasonable in price.
 
  
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minny
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris1 wrote:


It is difficult to price 996s at the moment. I am looking for one, hopefully a 3.6. But I have recently noticed on ebay that 997s have sold for 25K. So who would buy a standard 996 for circa 20K?

Furthermore 996s are not selling eg:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270649028659

and that seems to be a very reasonable in price.

Chris1 is right. I sold my own '99 996 Carrera Tip 3 months ago and priced it in the middle to lower end of the scale at £13995 ono for a car with full history, new brakes, suspension bits, ATF fluid, detailed profesionally, 18s, unmarked interior and only had 5 calls - 3 of which gave off to me on the phone as one hadn't decided if he wanted a tip or manual, another said he hoped I wasn't misrepresenting the car as he was fed up looking at so many and another just didn't turn up to view it. Thing is I didn't add the usual immaculate, 1 lady owner bit and when people called explained that all the work that had been done and also for a 76k mile car there was road rash on the front PU and bonnet and parking dings. When they asked about leaks, I explained the damp RMS region and cam covers. Thank goodness the guy that bought it was local, really liked it and then took it to the independent who gave it the thumbs up and am still in contact with the new owner who has lavished even more care on the car than I had by attending to the cosmetic faults.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris1 wrote:
What about this?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1999-PORSCHE-911-CARRERA-SILVER-My-pride-and-Joy-/120643875263?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1c16ef71bf

It is difficult to price 996s at the moment. I am looking for one, hopefully a 3.6. But I have recently noticed on ebay that 997s have sold for 25K. So who would buy a standard 996 for circa 20K?

Furthermore 996s are not selling eg:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270649028659

and that seems to be a very reasonable in price.



There's a big difference between £8.5k and £13,995. The circumstances surrounding the £8.5k car have been explained by the OP and it looks like that purchaser got a really good buy.

The £13,995 car is, imo, over priced but any private purchaser would be looking to negotiate. EDIT = I've just noticed this has ben reduced to £11,550 which proves my point.

There's an awful lot of 996s on the market and it's not a great time of year to sell such a car anyway so many will be hanging around for a while. Sale prices will be hit as even more early 997s come along but it will be a little while yet before an ordinary, high mileage 997 will be a better buy than a really good, lower mileage 996.

There's also a big difference between £20k and £25k. Unless your budget actually stretches to £25k you still won't get a 997 at all but for less than that you could get a very nice 996.2 and enjoy 911 ownership now rather than waiting.

Happy hunting.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to bump 996 prices : I sold my 2000 3.4 Cab just 3 weeks ago for 17.5k Very Happy Very Happy

I think there are still people out there willing to pay good money if the car is a good example Thumb
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