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tedzwedz
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:29 pm    Post subject: Anyone else think new daytime LED running lights look AWFUL? Reply with quote

Saw 2 new 997 (presumably mk.2 997's?) on the way to work this monrning, one a coupe, one a cabriolet.

First time I have noticed the LED running lights at the front in the flesh

I could not help thinking how AWFUL they looked

Im all for safety, and think having lights on all day is actually a good idea, especially on dull weather days, but on a dark 997, the ultra bright white lights looked frankly cheap and tacky, like a jap cra p car.

I love the 997 lines, but this was a no no!

IF i bought a new 997 (and its not an option at the moment!) I would insist they either slightly tinted the glass, turned them off or put masking tape on them!

Tinting option sounds best, just a tiny amount.

No offence to any new owners, just a thought, just like I dislike the orange indicators on my 996

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's like anything nowadays. At first you don't like them, then, when it becomes the norm you start to accept them and perhaps even change your mind about them. I'm not sure what to think of them if I'm honest, having not seen them on. They look great on the R8 though!

Now what I "don't" like about the new Gen II is the size of the the wing mirrors. Look like Dumbo's ears. Really look strange and out of place for me. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ResB wrote:
It's like anything nowadays. At first you don't like them, then, when it becomes the norm you start to accept them and perhaps even change your mind about them. I'm not sure what to think of them if I'm honest, having not seen them on. They look great on the R8 though!

Now what I "don't" like about the new Gen II is the size of the the wing mirrors. Look like Dumbo's ears. Really look strange and out of place for me. Smile


Was in front of a an R8 last night for half hour driving back into London from Oxford, those running lights, which I like a bit more on the R8 because they are in a sort of boomerang shape (i.e. they are a feature), really show how low the car is, looked like the lights were virtually on the ground!

Thats still quite a rare car the R8, there was a second one on my street, when I got back, but otherwise I only see one about every 3 weeks, even on Kings road, etc where exotica is the norm, and 911's are more common that Boxsters

Maybe your right about familiarisation, but im not sure they work on the 997

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not nearly as ugly as the dumbo wing mirrors which are huge!
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a big fan of them either. Especially the ones on certain Audis, which go in a funny wavy line. Looks like they've been stuck on bent!


 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blame the EU nanny state for the compulsary introduction of daytime running lights - however, they can be switched off by the driver.

Agree totally about the giant wing mirrors on the gen2, god knows why they changed the design?! I certainly don't have a problem weeing what's behind me in my gen1.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

weeing? Freudian slip? Did you mean to say "weeing on", as in leaving for dust?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing I actually meant seeing, but what you wrote works too!
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like them on HD007, although they are not daytime running, only side lights......most people who've seen them think they're Cool

Think it depends on the car
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont like leds, they look chav to me. I also cannot see the point in having them as daytime running lights as most are as bright as the main dipped beam. I dont understand why we need them? Why not just have dipped headlights on and be done with the poncy things. Its the same with fog lights, the amount of people i see who put fogs on with just side lights on is just ridiculous yet when its foggy most people have no lights on at all.
Blinkin madness and dont get me started with people leaving trolleys in the middle of tesco car park. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TDK wrote:
Agree totally about the giant wing mirrors on the gen2, god knows why they changed the design?! I certainly don't have a problem weeing what's behind me in my gen1.

Simon.


Simon, I believe these mirrors are the required standard for the US market in terms of size. Porsche I also believe left them as standard for the EU countries also!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I dont like leds, they look chav to me. I also cannot see the point in having them as daytime running lights as most are as bright as the main dipped beam. I dont understand why we need them? Why not just have dipped headlights on and be done with the poncy things. Its the same with fog lights, the amount of people i see who put fogs on with just side lights on is just ridiculous yet when its foggy most people have no lights on at all.
Blinkin madness and dont get me started with people leaving trolleys in the middle of tesco car park. Evil or Very Mad
123..... and calm Smile


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

baxster wrote:
I dont like leds, they look chav to me.
I couldn't agree more, they just plain ugly and on the R8 they make me convinced its a car designed for footballers
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uuf361 wrote:
I like them on HD007, although they are not daytime running, only side lights......most people who've seen them think they're Cool

Think it depends on the car


I agree with you, much as I dislike LED lights, i think they look ok on the V8 vantage
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with the OP's comments that the new 997 front LED lights could look better. If the R8 makes it look so cool, why can't Porsche? Last Saturday night, as I was driving down the A1, a new Gen 2 joined from the slip road and together with the main beam, the effect was not that aesthetic. And certainly not better than a Gen 1's front beam. From behind though, the Gen 2's LEDs work a treat I think.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least where I live, there's no regulations on daytime running lights. I have mine turned off, and I actually like them that way.

Today I saw an Audi A5 with the lights on, can't say I like them either. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do they have to be so feckin bright!!! It's ridiculous, moves your eyes away from the shape or detail of the car and blinds you in the process.

I like the Beemer angel eyes that they had, just right in brightness and appearance. IMO
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny how everyone's perspective seems to depend on whether they actually OWN a GenII or not.

There only seems to be one member so far that owns one and has disconnected them/not liked them

Me? I've got a GenII C4S and I think the running lights are great and I love the big mirrors. GenI will start to look dated soon......

Both were simply not factors influencing the decision to buy one (but I have decided to love them so I get maximum value out of my ownership experience)

PDK, Direct Injection, 385BHP and Ipod connector on the other hand......
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

goodethernet wrote:
Funny how everyone's perspective seems to depend on whether they actually OWN a GenII or not.


You've lost me there.....why should that seem funny?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmm, actually, I think the V8 Vantage looks pretty good with them. They're not 'IN YOUR FACE' bright though. I think it was one of the first cars to have them, so it was more of a 'ooooh, that's new' thing back then.
 
  
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