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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: Fifth Gear Video : 997 Turbo v Nissan GT-R Reply with quote

From this week’s Fifth Gear, here’s a chance to see GP2 driver Bruno Senna compare the new kid on the block, the Nissan GT-R, with Porsche’s 997 Turbo.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 great cars - in their own way. But who on earth is the complete ***** in the yellow hoodie? At his age, it's like watching your father dance at a wedding...wrong Hand
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quicker AND £46k cheaper......few people can ignore this wad of cash saving in todays ecomonic climate.

In the bone dry the performance lap time gap would probably be even wider.

I think Porsche will have a real problem selling against this Nissan.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a Nissan!!! The people that bought us the micra and the sunny ls!!!!!!!
It may well be super fast and much cheaper but it will always be a nissan.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may always be a Nissan but you won't have to chuck away £40k in depreciation over 3 years and will get at least 99% of what a 911T can do! The snob value is a factor of course.

BTW - have you seen the prices of good Datsun/Nissan 240Z's (especially the Samuria)....they put many classic Porsches to shame.

Nissan make good cars and every now and then they made a really cracking car and the GT-R is one of them.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Impressive stuff - mighty 997 TT humbled!
Senna junior was so smooth behind the wheel!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too true Asim the 997 was humbled by a Datsun 120Y Smile Friend of mine has the R34 and the R35 on order can't wait for a test drive.

Still recall when he took me for a blast in the R34 T-Spec.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is age related

If I was in my 20's I would go for the GTR over the 911 anyday

If I was in 30's it would be a close call either way.

In my 40's 911 all the way. I would look a plum in a GTR.

If I was in my 50's it would be neither. DB9 or R8 would be the options
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With Dave 100% Thumb

Just arrived in the 40's......had a look at AM DB9 and test drove the R8. In the end just couldn't see myself in either and went for the 997.

Now may be tempted to get a GTR as a track weapon but will wait and see how their values hold up.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point dave, im the wrong side of 30 (half a year left) and i would look like a total plum driving the gtr. Sure its performance is impressive, but i think its a toy for the 20 somethings. Maybe i need a mid life crisis and re-live my 20's????
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely all that electronic gubbins thats makes it capable of what it can do is a little bit of a cheat, that also detracts from the inter driver machine relationship?

Of course the Turbo has trickery of its own up its sleave, but I was always under the impression the GT-R's and the Evo's of this world had a computer controlling so many systems it wasnt just you driving the car?!?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

p.s. havn't watched the vid yet to be fair....
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave wrote:
I think it is age related
If I was in my 50's it would be neither. DB9 or R8 would be the options

Watch it, don't let's have any ageism here chaps Hand

Just 'cos some of us are knocking on a bit it doesn't mean we have to go for the softer options Old

But that said, I still wouldn't buy a GTR

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senna jnr was v impressed with the Nissan and it looks like a very involving and more stable(at high speed) drivers car.

997T's are also loaded with electronics so I don't get the point that's being made by some on this thread?

That's three good test drives/drivers (who have no axe to grind) that rate the Nissan as being up there with the 997T....so surely it's got to be a worthy contender?

It's been my belief for a while that Porsche are making a packet from every 911 sold and if cars like that GT-R force Porsche to be more £competitive then we should all be happy!
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When will they test the GTR against the GT3 food food
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the phrase "head in sand" mean much to anyone on here LOL

If the 2WD GT-R can keep with(and beat) a 4WD 997T in the wet/damp then a 997 GT3 should be a tasty challenge....I'd put my money on the Datsun.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most telling aspect was the difference in turbo response Porsche have to work their much hyped VTG.

The 911 was also mighty on the brakes but the R35 had it licked overall.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wizard993 wrote:
If the 2WD GT-R...........


Was with you till you wrote this.............
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If the 2WD GT-R...........


Is that the cheaper Datsun version..... Floor
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mottle wrote:
Its a Nissan!!! The people that bought us the micra and the sunny ls!!!!!!!
It may well be super fast and much cheaper but it will always be a nissan.


You cant deny the Nissan is a serious piece of hardware. I have a customer who has the new Nissan parked next to his Veyron.
 
  
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