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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject: 996 tow car? Reply with quote

Hello,Want to buy a 996,probably about 2000 car but Ideally would like to be able to tow a glider trailer with it.Been told you can't fit a tow bar,anyone know different?
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Highly doubt one can fit a tow bar to a 996 as I can't see the design of the chassis of this car allowing for such a feature to be fitted. There is nowhere a tow bar could be attached to - have a look under any 996 and see for yourself.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about using the Total 911 Inflateable Roof Rack food food , and leaving the wings on the glider Thumb , then providing you keep moving at a reasonable speed the lift on the glider will stop the weight damaging the roof of the Porsche thumbsup .
There is always a solution to any problem you just need lateral thinking Floor
On a serious note I think you would be better looking for a cheapo Cayenne, as the added weight in the tow car will help with the trailering etc.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hand having even more weight out over the back axle doesn't sound like a very good idea to me
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: 996 tow car? Reply with quote

p2racing wrote:
Hello,Want to buy a 996,probably about 2000 car but Ideally would like to be able to tow a glider trailer with it.Been told you can't fit a tow bar,anyone know different?


err... NO! Very Happy

I think you got away lightly with the people who first saw your post... Wink

Unless you are considering bolting the towbar onto the engine itself, there really is no way you could do this without ripping the back end off first time you accelerated away up a hill.

You do know the engine is the rearmost thing of any substance in a 911 I presume? Question
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apw2007 wrote:
Hand having even more weight out over the back axle doesn't sound like a very good idea to me

Andrew with the Glider on the Roof Rack it wont put more weight on the back axle, in fact at the right speed it will take the weight off the axle.It may not be a good idea however on narrow streets Hand
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys will eat your hats! food food
It has been done, I knew I'd seen it somewhere it's just taken me 1/2 hour to find it though...

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49019&highlight=tow+hitch+996
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surprised and now eating my hat
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wish I had a tastier hat.. Yuk

I bet it was a Dutchman that invented that Floor
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The classic towing photo

http://www.autoblog.nl/images/wp2007/Porsche%20997%20caravan%2002.jpg
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and heres another!
 



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

apw2007 wrote:
and heres another!


cough... it was rear-engined 911s that we were thinking it would be tricky for Wink

Cayman and Boxster both have a rear chassis that would be strong enough for a tow-bar... Mind you, you still have to ask WTF Floor Floor Floor
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caravan towing with a 911 whatever next??? I never in all my life thought I would see that.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gosh, I'll eat my hat too...... Embarassed Mind you, the 996 tow bar conversion can't have been a cheap job to do but in the case of that yank's, it's been executed perfectly.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wattie wrote:
apw2007 wrote:
and heres another!


cough... it was rear-engined 911s that we were thinking it would be tricky for Wink


Embarassed my mistake!
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ve seen a car at Exeter OPC with a tow bar and a few months later on the M5 there it was with a cararvan on the back
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't care that it can be done. It just shouldn't be done, it's wrong.

Whatever next, Porsche GB membership discount with the caravan club Old
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy a 911 to have a great time in the best car on the road.

Then, for less than the cost of a 911 towbar buy this from Autotrader :

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Save yourself lots of of mockery plus the knowledge that you are committing sacrilege. Also remember the first time you burn the clutch trying to drag a glider up a ramp or over a bumpy field, that will cost you the same amount again.

I think that is another reason why you do not often see towbars on 911.

LJ
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, as an engineer, I'm disappointed in the responses to thread.
Firstly, you cannot judge whether or not it is suitable. I go to the south coast every year with family. Once I'm there, we tend to go out an about on some lovely roads, and I constantly feel sad that I'm in the truck because of the luggage and dog. If I could put the dog on the back seat, and tow a lightweight trailer with a couple of cases in down, so then i have the 911 to hoon around in whilst there, then that sounds brilliant. If you've got some hang-up about a tow bar on a Porsche, then that's your issue, have fun turning up in a shitbox because you thought a tow bar was embarrassing!?

From a engineering approach, I'd imagine the engines mounting points are fairly strong, having to hold a torquing engine in place etc, so surely there's a strong point there? I haven't looked yet, but I'd love to do this. There's also some suspensio strong points nearby surely, it's just a case of finding them and designing in some bracketry.

I don't know what the law has to say about DIY tow bars, but I'd certainly consider it.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The impact bar behind the rear bumper would be a good place to look first. Only thing is if you drive past a vosa check you could be in trouble as I am fairly sure cars that are towing have to have a stamped plated towing weight. No way would a 996 be tried and tested. Plod may not pick it up but I'm fairly sure vosa will. And if ever you were involved in an accident fingers would be on you. Please research this as I the legality is more of an issue here than physically doing it.

I agree having a decent car on your hols would be ideal... if this fails look in to hiring a trailer and tow the 996 with your boring box vehicle.
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