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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MSN Motoring News...

http://cars.uk.msn.com/Reviews/article.aspx?cp-Documentid=1216180







and interesting review with an interesting conclusion....


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love the colour of the AM

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since the Normal Carrera S is a better "sports car" than the Aston, the engine upgraded version is going to beat it easily!

The Aston is still nicer to look at though!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote: Originally posted by So Poo on 07 November 2006

Since the Normal Carrera S is a better "sports car" than the Aston, the engine upgraded version is going to beat it easily!

The Aston is still nicer to look at though!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote: Originally posted by Daniel Sait on 07 November 2006

Previous poster wrote:
Quote: Originally posted by So Poo on 07 November 2006

Since the Normal Carrera S is a better "sports car" than the Aston, the engine upgraded version is going to beat it easily!

The Aston is still nicer to look at though!


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I want 100 lines "In my heart of hearts the 911 looks better"





I agree with Chris Embarassed



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a long hard look at the picture....

The Aston will date with-in 5 years..

The 911.. timeless classic lines..


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Take a long hard look at the picture....

The Aston will date with-in 5 years..

The 911.. timeless classic lines..



Right here. Right now. The Aston is the better looking car. In five years time I think that will still be the case. IMO of course Smile



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Take a long hard look at the picture....

The Aston will date with-in 5 years..

The 911.. timeless classic lines..

Like a DB5 and DB6 you mean. Dan the Porsche is a classic look - but the Aston is more just impressive IMO. This look does not come cheap however!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I have both or do I have to pick which one I like best to look at ?

That would be a hard choice!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aston is like a model - lovely to look at but a real pain in the bum to live with - the 911 is a bit boring in comparison to look at but way better to live with. Not sure if any of you guys have had a chance to drive the AMV8 but what a shocking clutch and gear shift - absolutely terrible! Not the best driving position either!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote: Originally posted by Servo Sarai on 07 November 2006

Aston is like a model - lovely to look at but a real pain in the bum to live with - the 911 is a bit boring in comparison to look at but way better to live with. Not sure if any of you guys have had a chance to drive the AMV8 but what a shocking clutch and gear shift - absolutely terrible! Not the best driving position either!


I didn't think the clutch was too heavy, but the gear shift required some effort - really had to ram it in (so as to speak)! Embarassed
It's the 16mpg, I couldn't live with at the moment. Must be so expensive to run, mile-for-mile when compared to a 997C2S.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

their summary..


The flashy Aston might turn heads and get the most people talking, but if you want the best performance car, it has to be the Porsche.


enough said really Very Happy




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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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their summary..


The flashy Aston might turn heads and get the most people talking, but if you want the best performance car, it has to be the Porsche.


enough said really Very Happy




Pretty accurate summary if you ask me!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, a little biased chaps, I have owned a 996 sports pack, 996 facelift, 996TT & 997S & now an AMV8. haven't read the review yet, but here are my views for what they are worth!in

The Aston is a fabulous car, not better than Pork just different & just as good in its own way. As it feels totally different to Pork you need time to get used to it.

On the +

The Aston is a better GT, much more comfortable, less drive line shunt, great part throttle response, nice solid chunky controls & fantastic driving position. It is also a very good drivers car, the weight distribution is spot on (51/49) so the car moves all as one & simply flows down your favourite B road, it will also allow the back end to move with a hint of oversteer, making you feel great in the driving seat, it also understeers less than a 911. The car does float & roll a little, more than an 030 or PASM equipped Porker (less than a standard 996), but if you learn to trust it & get used to "flowing" through the bends it really is an amazing drive & the engine sounds even better than a Porsche with PSE. The car also looks fabulous, an automotive jewel inside & out & makes you feel lucky to own it every time you approach it, it also has a great friendly image with fellow road users.

On the -

The engine is slow to rev in the lower rev range, part throttle GT driving is great ,but flat to the floor below 4k revs & you want more response. Above 4,5k it is a demon, with Lucifer screaming in your ears from the exhaust note. The Porker has a much better gearbox, not as manly, but much faster & easy to use, the 911's engine also revs more cleanly from lower revs & it is certainly a little faster, although not by much on the road, but it does "feel" faster than the Aston, it also has better traction out of corners due to the rear weight biase. Pork steering also offers more feel, but is a little too light after you get used to the Vantage. The Porker is also better engineered, you can feel everything is well made, I know which car will be more reliable in a few years time & it won't be the Aston. As a drivers car the 911 has the edge, it is the bigger adrenaline pump, certainly when pushing on above 7/10th's, below that the Aston has the edge, as it flows better through the corners!

So all I am saying guys is don't knock it until you have tried it properly, Pork is fabulous, but so is the Aston in it's own way, this car has got under my skin & I am really pleased I have been lucky enough to own one. I will, of course, be back to Pork soon, but the Aston is a fabulous class act both as automotive art & a drivers car with a roaring V8 heart, all this said by a true Porkernut!




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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Porkernut, thanks for the comments, I guess like every car you need to spend a bit of time with it. My intial impressions were not too good but then I only had the car for an hour or two. One thing that got me immediately on the Aston was the sound - absolutely amazing!

Do you do many miles in your AMV8? Is it your main car? Any relaiblity issues? I was reading the Evo long term review on the AMV8 and sounded like the owner had a 'few' problems with it in his ownership period but sold it for the same price he bought it!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Servo....I have had the car since July, done about 3k miles, it is my daily driver & no real problems to speak of, a rear parcel shelf rattle that needs sorting & the odd small "quirk" but so far (fingers crossed) it has been more reliable than my 996TT!

I also have the exhaust uncorked, so you get a fabulous sound track throughout the whole rev range.

Anyway I still love Pork, but at least there is now a real alternative below the 100k+ you pay for a Lambo or Ferrari!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting comments there Porkernut !

agree about the V8..... and for looks the AMV8 wins no contest

there is a point in the future that the 'reasonable' priced 911 can no longer survive on just 6 Cylinders to compete for power & cost, but not yet....

but you recall that Top Gear episode on the IOM when they tested the AMV8 v 997 C2S v BMW M6 head to head.... if so what did you make of their comments


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i think the 911 is the better looking car, by some margin,

not saying the Am isnt handsome because it is, however the 911 looks so pure and simple and un ageing in comparison


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO the AM looks better from the front but a bit squashed from the back/rear quarter angle. Would I prefer one to a porker....NO

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just my 2p worth, but I think that what wins with the Porsche is that the lines flow into each other so seamlessly. There's no lumpy bits or ridges, just a smooth series of sensuous curves.

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