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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT3 mk1 or 993RS, which one would you have as a weekend car and occasional track day car.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

993RS............purely on looks alone

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a fully manthey tuned GT3...oem spec is very good but not epic

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For looks-993RS

For performance-GT3

To feel special-993RS (debatable)

Depreciation proof-993RS

Rarity-993RS

Driving pleasure-993RS (debatable)

Noise-993RS

Best of everything-993RS with 9M heads




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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooooh 9M heads, theres a thought. What a beast that would be.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a trackday today at Brands Hatch on the GP circuit. Among the Radicals, E30 M3's and Caterhams (and a DB9) there were 5 or 6 GT3RS (2 Parr cars), two 996 GT3(mk1) and one 993RS. The 993 certainly held it's own amongst the 996's and sounded great too. The GT3RS is very impressive on the circuit but it would be the 993 for me any time...


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

993RS on looks!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote: Originally posted by Martin Rose on 13July2006
The 993 certainly held it's ownamongst the 996's and soundedgreat too.



Please define...!

Let's get real guys, the 993RS is a nice car, but it can't hold a candle against a GT3 or GT3RS in terms of performance. On circuit, the 993RS is relatively slow compared to the GT3 on the straights and through the corners - and that's with a bus driver like me at the wheel. The 993RS looks great and it sounds fab as well, but apart from that it really is just an emotional choice...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure on a fast circuit such as Bedford or Silverstone, the GT3/RS will no doubt leave the 993RS for dust. However on a circuit with little straight and lots of twisty bits such as Oulton, the 993RS can probably just about keep up. But a 993RS with 9M heads + bits, well that's another story!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The 993 certainly held it's own amongst the 996's and sounded great too.


Please define...!Let's get real guys, the 993RS is a nice car, but it can't hold a candle against a GT3 or GT3RS in terms of performance. On circuit, the 993RS is relatively slow compared to the GT3 on the straights and through the corners - and that's with a bus driver like me at the wheel. The 993RS looks great and it sounds fab as well, but apart from that it really is just an emotional choice...


look at all the extra aero's on the 996 !

if you all those tricks on the 993 Wink



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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a fully manthey tuned GT3...oem spec is very good but not epic


......erghhh wot.....as standard OEM spec what do you consider to be epic?

Straight out of the factory the only thing faster is a Turbo or GT2. And I don't want to get into a PH argument over which is better.

If we're talking tuned or tweaked that opens a whole new can of worms.

Anyway a standard GT3 Mk1 or 2 is more than most can handle proficiently anyway. Which is why I never get out of 3rd gear even down Hanger Straight & why anybody with half a clue how to drive laps me on most circuits. Embarassed

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm...GT3 or 993RS...?

I'll take one of each...both awesome cars..best of breed and both porkers, lets be proud and not as Rob says get in to the whole mines bigger than your deabte. We'd all take either in a flash lets be honest... Very Happy Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, so my choice would be a 993RS based on looks, rarity, nil depreciation ?, and it being slightly cheaper in lhd guise and don't get me wrong I would love a GT3.

And to take it one step further based on performance and lesser cost would a well sorted standard carrera 2 ( exclude 9m bits) be far behind the RS.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the same driver the RS would be slightly ahead but not by miles on the road. It has better suspension (harder) and more powerful 3.8l engine as well as being lighter. The difference become a lot more obvious on a track.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

are they available for the same price?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a good LHD 993 RS is not far off a GT3 price wise, @50k

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got to be 993RS every time, wont be a long way behind a GT3, however bullet proof depreciation, and the looks,

"Probably the best looking 911 of all time"

One for the true purist, ranks up there with the original RS, and will probably command the same sort of prices in 20 years.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The 993 certainly held it's own amongst the 996's and sounded great too.

Please define...!Let's get real guys, the 993RS is a nice car, but it can't hold a candle against a GT3 or GT3RS in terms of performance. On circuit, the 993RS is relatively slow compared to the GT3 on the straights and through the corners - and that's with a bus driver like me at the wheel. The 993RS looks great and it sounds fab as well, but apart from that it really is just an emotional choice...

In the end a lot comes down to the driver (obviously!) and maybe the 993RS pilot was one of the most experienced out there, but on this occasion that car appeared no slower than the 996's especially round the corners. Noisewise, with the exception of one of the Parr cars that sounded a right old beast, the 993 was the best Porsche on circuit. I have to admit that one or two of the Caterhams sounded quite good as well....

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

993 RS is where its at !

GT3 just does not have the lines/looks of the RS !

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

surely most gt3 drivers buy the car for the driving experience/dynamics rather than the looks?

If so then surely the more recent the car the better it is?


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