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Simon A
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went to drive a tipronic to see what it was like - the guys at 911 virgin were professional, polite and very helpful.............anyway, they had just collected a gorgeous fully loaded 996 C4S (less litronics).

Quite a reasonable price & an exhaust note to die for! Really wanted one of these, but at the time not many were below the 50k ceiling I had, but there are more on the market now, I was wondering what impact the new C4S will have on depreciation of the 996?

Daz, similar spec to yours?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You didnt happen to see what the mileage was did you? or does Henry tape it over so's not to spoil the suprise?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldn't get the exact mileage...........2 different conversations gave me 20k or 30k miles (apologies - a bit vague). I know they are not keen on mileage as a factor for selling a car and tend to go on condition, and I have to say it was immaculate..........

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the 996 C4S will always hold its value well vs other 996s because it has a very distinct style, like the 993S's.

Not sure the 997Ss are quite so exciting to look at somehow.

I think it is not so much the 997s that will jeopardise the residuals so much as the 996 Turbos which are getting v comparable in price.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also wonder what the new C4S will do to the depreciation of my car.

I think it will be gradual, dont think the new C4S, is as nice as mine, reflector strip missing makes a big diffrence.

911 Virgin C4S, looks very nice and bar the exhaust I think the same spec and colour. Depending on milage price looks spot on.

The milage thing is a bit misleading with Henry, you add 50k miles and try and sell it back to him and see what he says about the milage reducing its value.

Dont think its fair to have it both ways, tell people its not important when they buy and thus not reduce the cars value accordingly and conversley telling those trying to sell him a car that the milage is a factor in reducing the value that he can give them on their car Confused

FYI, my car is an 03, 52 reg with the PCM2 system, if this car is an 02, it may/probably is the PCM1 system which is a lot older looking and working

Having said that Virgin have an outstanding reputation in the trade, and very rarely here people moaning about their cars, I suggest that the reputation is hard earned.

Daz.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was following a 997C4S yesterday around town, and I got to admit that she has one gorgeous ass. Wink
MUCH nicer than the narrow bodied 'S'. Must admit, she looks a lot wider/more curvaceous than the 996C4S...

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wash your mouth out OC! Wink

I know i am biased, but i actually managed to end up following both a 997 C4S and (very wet looking) 996 C4S on saturday.

No doubt the 997 a$$ looked very nice indeed, but i felt the curves were more pronounced on the 996. not sure how much the reflector strip played in this.

SA, the car at virign, looks v.nice, great spec and price not bad, perhaps on the high side if you look at whats available on autotrader...


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am amazed that they let you drive the thing without actually buying the car. From Henry's recent posts on PHeads, he appears to be very anti test drives!

Re 997, had a good look at one yesterday, they are definitely better looking than the 996, some very good 993 lines to it.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know I have one myself, but I just dont see it as better looking than either mine or a 993C4S,

Maybe I will pop in the OPC on the weekend and have a look, maybe diffrent colours have a diffrent appearance.

Do not snipe at the 996C4S Evil or Very Mad

Tis the best looker of all Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got to say the C4S does look nice.............whichever model: "beauty is -



in the eye of the beholder" Wink




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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or maybe this angle will convince you.

Daz.



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say, the 996 is a looker...............and still turns my head.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

....prefer the red one behind to be honest...comes complete not only with cupholder in the dash, but also a drinks tray on the back...the bonnet was up by the way as I continued my quest to find out where the dam engine is. I know it's there somewhere cos it makes so much noise. I'll figure it out one day.....

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Previous poster wrote:
Quote: Originally posted by F1_Dragon on 20 February 2006

wash your mouth out OC! Wink

I know i am biased, but i actually managed to end up following both a 997 C4S and (very wet looking) 996 C4S on saturday.






It could all go downhill from here real quickly... Surprised Very Happy

Love those curves... all of 'em! I think the "C4S" in whatever genre is starting to make a bit of a rep for itself...


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote: Originally posted by oceancarrera on 20 February 2006

It could all go downhill from here real quickly... Surprised Very Happy




downhill ? must be the winter olympics !

for looks....

Turbo Turbo Turbo

Turbo Turbo Turbo

Turbo Turbo Turbo

Turbo Turbo Turbo


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sundeep, how can you say Turbo?! Confused

C4S has the sublime curves of the the Turbo without the horrible holes cut in the arches!


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Boy racer holes and a boy racer spoiler, gwad, you will be sourcing a GT3 soon, for the tea tray Wink Wink Wink Wink

Helmet on for replies.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote: Originally posted by F1_Dragon on 20 February 2006

Sundeep, how can you say Turbo?! Confused

C4S has the sublime curves of the the Turbo without the horrible holes cut in the arches!

I'm with F1 there - I hate those dirty great holes in the 996 turbo - they just put me right off. The C4S is the most beautiful of all the 996's. I wish I had bought one when they were available! I still love the 996 even though I bought a 997 a few months ago! Wish I hadn't sold my 996.......

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was dissapointed by new Turbo in that respect. Had hoped they would have gone back to the 993 style intergrated intakes.

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