My car will spend the next week
up at the garages of AmD somewhere in deepest Oxfordshire.. at AmD I will get new (i) Bilstein HD shocks [after a month awaiting them!] (ii) M030 Springs (iii) Front RS Wishbone Arms fitted with the correct alignment as well as getting an AmD ECU remap done on my 9 year old 100k mile 3.6 litre engine.....
but enough to make the bank balance tremble...
I am just hoping that my car comes back from AmD without any minor dents like last time
although all of this is a whole other story !!!anyway on the way up it wil get 4 new shoes in the form of N rated Michelin Pilot Sport Tyres thanks to Black Circles on my existing 17" alloys (decided not to supersize to 18's
which is still a surprise to me !!!!)
I decided to go for the latest N rated tyres as opposed to the N rated types as recommended back in the days of the 993. my view is that I wanted to benefit from the current tyre technology, as there are compound and tread advances in the latest variant's that I wanted to benefit from, opposed to tyres that is from an older design.
which was same view in all my 4 options.. except for the Continential's which were still the same spec, otherwsie the Michelin, Pirelli & Bridgestone were the lastest Porsche N rated tyres from each brand & tyre.. verses the 993 N spec tyres back from 1998..
note - although I did try and get the 993 specified Michelin N1's but most places were only listing the newer Michelin N2's..... so in the end I quickly ditched the old N1's although I should point out that there is nothing wrong with the previous Michelin Pilot Sport N1's
Price wise
www.blackcircles.com
prices were very good, I got a discount verses the online price that was about 10% on the tyre price not the nominal fitting et all charge...just mentioned every club & web forum as I part of!
options as the following....
Key criteria = tyre life, noise & wet handling
Option 1 :
205/50 R17 Z Bridgestone S02-A N4 - £125.71 Per Tyre Fully Fitted255/40 R17 Z Bridgestone S02-A N4 - £149.62 Per Tyre Fully FittedThe Bridgestone S02-A has a wear rating of 140
conclusion = too soft, but for that reason made 2nd place
Option 2 :
205/50 R17 Z Pirelli Pzero Rosso N3 - £134.78 Per Tyre Fully Fitted255/40 R17 Z Pirelli Pzero Rosso N3 - £134.78 Per Tyre Fully FittedThe Pirelli Pzero Rosso has a wear rating of 220
conclusion = although the best price, which should have been the choice, I wasn't so keen on the tyre design ! although a good tyre I didn't feel it was anything special !may be next time.. although I know someone will disagree !
Option 3 :
205/50 R17 Z Michelin Pilot Sport N2 - £148.19 Per Tyre Fully Fitted255/40 R17 Z Michelin Pilot Sport N2 - £152.15 Per Tyre Fully FittedThe Michelin Pilot Sport has a wear rating of 220
conclusion = so contray to Michelin's reputation for tyres since the US GP, price was the sticking points i.e. most expensive, quotes ranged up to £250 a tyre ! never run michelin's before, so actually wanted to see what they were like !
Option 4 :
205/50 R17 Z Continential Sport Contact 2 N2 - £134.19 Per Tyre Fully Fitted255/40 R17 Z Continential Sport Contact 2 N2 - £144.17 Per Tyre Fully FittedThe Continential Sport Contact 2 has a wear rating of 280
conclusion = my current tyres, tread life is amazing, grip in the dry has been good, although they have had to suffer with my knackered suspension so wet handling was always a tad suspect, if not always eventful ! although if I ever had a GT2 then these tyres would be the 1st choice i.e hard enough to survive all that power in just the rear wheels....
so it was the Michelin Polit SPort N2's that won the day.. although never thought I would end up picking the most expensive option !
from what I could tell the latest Michelin Pilot Sport 2's weren't available as an N spec in the sizes for the 993... so per the 1st picture these are the ones am I led to believe will be fitted.. well accordingly to the Michelin site per
http://www.michelinman.com/assets/pdfs/doc_pilotsport.pdf
Pilot® Sport
6 9 7 9 N/A N/A
verses PS2... which seem to better rated according to Michelin (which would make sense v2 better than v1!)Pilot® Sport PS2™
6 10 10 10 N/A N/A
although personal preference of the directional tyre pattern was also a factor ! which is why I also wasn't so keen on the original '98 Michelin Pilot Sport MXX3 N1.. no doubt a legend in the dry but in the wet the design is a tad old...
if only the
GOOD YEAR EAGLE F1 GS-D3
was available as N Porsche Rated Tyre, then for me it would no contest and an immediate choice ! sadly it isn't
Migration info. Legacy thread was 30466
up at the garages of AmD somewhere in deepest Oxfordshire.. at AmD I will get new (i) Bilstein HD shocks [after a month awaiting them!] (ii) M030 Springs (iii) Front RS Wishbone Arms fitted with the correct alignment as well as getting an AmD ECU remap done on my 9 year old 100k mile 3.6 litre engine.....
but enough to make the bank balance tremble...
I am just hoping that my car comes back from AmD without any minor dents like last time
although all of this is a whole other story !!!anyway on the way up it wil get 4 new shoes in the form of N rated Michelin Pilot Sport Tyres thanks to Black Circles on my existing 17" alloys (decided not to supersize to 18's
which is still a surprise to me !!!!)
I decided to go for the latest N rated tyres as opposed to the N rated types as recommended back in the days of the 993. my view is that I wanted to benefit from the current tyre technology, as there are compound and tread advances in the latest variant's that I wanted to benefit from, opposed to tyres that is from an older design.
which was same view in all my 4 options.. except for the Continential's which were still the same spec, otherwsie the Michelin, Pirelli & Bridgestone were the lastest Porsche N rated tyres from each brand & tyre.. verses the 993 N spec tyres back from 1998..
note - although I did try and get the 993 specified Michelin N1's but most places were only listing the newer Michelin N2's..... so in the end I quickly ditched the old N1's although I should point out that there is nothing wrong with the previous Michelin Pilot Sport N1's
Price wise
www.blackcircles.com
prices were very good, I got a discount verses the online price that was about 10% on the tyre price not the nominal fitting et all charge...just mentioned every club & web forum as I part of!
options as the following....
Key criteria = tyre life, noise & wet handling
Option 1 :
205/50 R17 Z Bridgestone S02-A N4 - £125.71 Per Tyre Fully Fitted255/40 R17 Z Bridgestone S02-A N4 - £149.62 Per Tyre Fully FittedThe Bridgestone S02-A has a wear rating of 140
conclusion = too soft, but for that reason made 2nd place
Option 2 :
205/50 R17 Z Pirelli Pzero Rosso N3 - £134.78 Per Tyre Fully Fitted255/40 R17 Z Pirelli Pzero Rosso N3 - £134.78 Per Tyre Fully FittedThe Pirelli Pzero Rosso has a wear rating of 220
conclusion = although the best price, which should have been the choice, I wasn't so keen on the tyre design ! although a good tyre I didn't feel it was anything special !may be next time.. although I know someone will disagree !
Option 3 :
205/50 R17 Z Michelin Pilot Sport N2 - £148.19 Per Tyre Fully Fitted255/40 R17 Z Michelin Pilot Sport N2 - £152.15 Per Tyre Fully FittedThe Michelin Pilot Sport has a wear rating of 220
conclusion = so contray to Michelin's reputation for tyres since the US GP, price was the sticking points i.e. most expensive, quotes ranged up to £250 a tyre ! never run michelin's before, so actually wanted to see what they were like !
Option 4 :
205/50 R17 Z Continential Sport Contact 2 N2 - £134.19 Per Tyre Fully Fitted255/40 R17 Z Continential Sport Contact 2 N2 - £144.17 Per Tyre Fully FittedThe Continential Sport Contact 2 has a wear rating of 280
conclusion = my current tyres, tread life is amazing, grip in the dry has been good, although they have had to suffer with my knackered suspension so wet handling was always a tad suspect, if not always eventful ! although if I ever had a GT2 then these tyres would be the 1st choice i.e hard enough to survive all that power in just the rear wheels....
so it was the Michelin Polit SPort N2's that won the day.. although never thought I would end up picking the most expensive option !
from what I could tell the latest Michelin Pilot Sport 2's weren't available as an N spec in the sizes for the 993... so per the 1st picture these are the ones am I led to believe will be fitted.. well accordingly to the Michelin site per
http://www.michelinman.com/assets/pdfs/doc_pilotsport.pdf
Pilot® Sport
6 9 7 9 N/A N/A
verses PS2... which seem to better rated according to Michelin (which would make sense v2 better than v1!)Pilot® Sport PS2™
6 10 10 10 N/A N/A
although personal preference of the directional tyre pattern was also a factor ! which is why I also wasn't so keen on the original '98 Michelin Pilot Sport MXX3 N1.. no doubt a legend in the dry but in the wet the design is a tad old...
if only the
GOOD YEAR EAGLE F1 GS-D3
was available as N Porsche Rated Tyre, then for me it would no contest and an immediate choice ! sadly it isn't
Migration info. Legacy thread was 30466