Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 31 Location: Midlothian
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:20 pm Post subject:
The other problem I had at the weekend was the water for cleaning the screen freezing all the time. There was plenty screenwash in it, and it was only -3 or -4, but I guess the wind chill drops that a long way.
I would have thought there should have been a heater of some sort on the nozzles, especially when there is no engine there to heat up the bonnet.
Colin
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JamesThomas Field Cadet
Joined: 05 Jan 2005 Posts: 147 Location: Rugby, Midlands, UK
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:39 pm Post subject:
Just to reinforce FR's comment about 4wd not helping you stop on ice... Was passenger in an old Jag XJS a few years back on a winter morning. Came over the crest of a hill, right hand bend, loads of ice and we went straight on through the hedge and into a field. Got out to inspect the damage and, just as my friend (the driver and owner of the Jag) was saying "***** me that was lucky, hardly a scratch" and 993 C4 came over the same crest, hit the same ice and parked itself in the boot of the Jag, writing off both cars in front of our eyes! Took me days to stop laughing!!
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Fuchs Admiral
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 4986 Location: Switzerland
Colin - living where i do - screenwsh that doesnt freeze is a major interest to all. All the car programmes on tv seem to spend too much time for my liking talking about the best products - (yawn). Anyhow what i've learnt is that you really need to use some "tested to -20" screen wash undiluted - it has never frozen on me - even up in the hills at -17.
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Steven Kenny Newbie
Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 14 Location: Loughborough
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:29 pm Post subject:
On my '88 Carrera 3.2 I believe that the washer jets are heated. I think that the heating element is switched on when you switch on the heated rear screen. I will try and remember to look at the manual to confirm.
Steven
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Martin Hurst Newbie
Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 10
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:08 pm Post subject:
Having lived in a very snowy area of Germany for a number of years I can confirm that it doesn't matter whether you have two or four wheel drive, if you haven't got winter tyres then you are going to struggle and rear drive is probably the worst solution possible!
When I first came to Germany I have a BMW 328 with standard UK tyres on. Anyway first time it snowed I had to dump the car at the side of the road and walk as it wasn't going anywhere. The second time I lost control going down a hill and found that even with the added effect of severe buttock clenching there was no way I was going to stop. Only through luck did I manage to miss everything (lamppost, parked cars, tree) but my lesson was well and truely learned. Once fitted with winter tyres the BMW was a hoot, beutifully controlled drifting was possible with just the right amount of traction.
I'm now driving a 997 S which has as "narrow" winter wheels the standard Cararra 265 - 18' jobbies. I must say that at first I thought they had forgotten to fit the winter tyres but now that they have a bit of mileage under them they seem to have bedded in nicely and the car is quite safe - it has to be as its my only form of transport. There have been a couple of moments so far where the back will step out a little before the PSM comes in (very late IMHO) but that is actually quite good fun.
However, based on my experience I would never try and drive (or more importantly stop) in snow with summer tyres again.
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Fuchs Admiral
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 4986 Location: Switzerland
Good point Martin - i wonder how effective a 993 TT would be with snow tyres?
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Sean Dudding Cop
Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 430
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:30 pm Post subject:
I am going to find out how a 911 really handles in the snow. I am booked on for Camp 4 next year. Can;t wait, apparently it's mental the speeds they get you up to on the snow.
But as people have already mentioned in this thread, it's all about the tyres....
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GGnnneeeeooowwwww Newbie
Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 7 Location: Afghanistan
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:34 pm Post subject:
Previous poster wrote:
Quote: Originally posted by Martin Hurst on 24 February 2005
...that even with the added effect of severe buttock clenching there was no way I was going to stop....
LOL!!!
Man, that's hilarious!!!
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porkapig Master
Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Posts: 253
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject:
Previous poster wrote:
Quote: Originally posted by Warren M on 24 February 2005
Good point Martin - i wonder how effective a 993 TT would be with snow tyres?
very well - was in the french alps at the end of november for the ice racing - one of the competitors had a 993 tt with snow tyres as his run around in the village - no problem at all but then he was an ice racer ;-)
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Fuchs Admiral
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 4986 Location: Switzerland
hmmm - well it looks like at bonus time i'm searching for a 993 tt -
The missus will be pleased.
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Colin Tinto Newbie
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 31 Location: Midlothian
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 4:43 pm Post subject:
Well, to answer one of my own questions, the washer nozzles are supposed to be heated as long as the ignition is switched on. So either they're not working at all, or just not very good. Will need to check if there is any powr going to them. Perhaps there is a fuse out...
Colin
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graham_mitchell Commander
Joined: 15 Jun 2003 Posts: 214 Location: Sweden
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:38 pm Post subject:
Previous poster wrote:
Quote: Originally posted by poon on 23 February 2005there was a diff lock switch on my old 964c4 that helped in snow/ice, it locks the power 50/50 and should only be used up to 20/30 mph. Not sure if the 993 had it tho?[/QUOTE]I'm a bit concerned about the lack of 993 knowledge on this 993 forum!
The 993 has a totally different system to the 964. It uses a viscous clutch which is a common point of failure. There is a complex test contained in the workshop manual. If it does fail, the car effectively becomes rear wheel drive.
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Robert Warner Newbie
Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 19 Location: Warwick, England
Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 12:50 am Post subject:
The key thing no one has yet mentioned about winter tyres is that, apart from being much narrower to cut into snow, slush, etc., they are made with a very different compound to maintain tread flexibility - and therefore, grip - at low temperatures.
If you want to walk on snow, you spread your weight with wide snow shoes. With a car, you need to cut into and through it to get grip - hence the need for narrow tyres enhanced by tread flexibility once it meets a hard surface.
Getting a set of narrow wheels complete with tyres [which only have a lifespan of 5 years before the rubber starts to degrade] will cost more than keeping an old series Land Rover [£1000-1500 to buy in reasonable fettle, £150 fully comp insurance even with a 21 year old son on the policy [and it would still be £150 even if he was the policyholder so its a great way to acquire NCB for a youngster], no road fund tax and a £200 annual service and MOT if you can't be bothered to do it yourself. And on the few days it will snow in those 5 years, you can leave the decent motor in the garage away from the salt and any idiot who fails to understand you need to drive much slower and more gently when the white stuff comes down! And as for the rest of the year, it's a great tool for going to the local tip!
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