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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:59 pm    Post subject: What would you have changed? Reply with quote

Hi all,

With hindsight, and no point mentioning ims/rms, what would you have added or changed to the 996 when launched?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stainless fasteners through more of the car, in fact more or less anywhere underneath.
Sunroof should have been a cost option rather than the sunroof delete being an option.
LSD should have been standard.
It should have been 100KG lighter.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a tricky question cos if Porsche did everything right that is wrong, they probably couldn't have afforded to manufacture the car. The 986/996 was a cost cutting exercise to save the firm.......and it worked.

Although now you've asked: Grin

Mesh radiator grills
Better located aircon pipe
Mid engine instead of rear
Better crank support at clutch end
Alternative brake pipe routing
Stainless manifold bolts
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh, but they were saving that mid-engine goodness for the Cayman. But yes, a better appointed car would have meant the end of Porsche; the commonality with the Boxster was essential to them staying afloat, as well as the pig iron spec steel they specced for the fixings.

Funnily enough, I did my ARDS test in a Cayman at Thruxton and it was a brilliant thing on the track, if somewhat soft. I have a great memory of slowly reeling in a black 911 and realising this was a moment I'd never forget.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Designed it so that someone 6'2" could drive it comfortably without a raft of modifications would have saved me quite a bit of money.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better seats.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EGTE wrote:
Better seats.


Than what? The hardbacks are perfect IMHO. Dont know
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vents on the dash ends to demist the side windows
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Electric folding mirrors !
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nikasil cylinder liners.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EGTE wrote:
Better seats.


Yep, with you on that. I really have to brace myself against the door or centre console when cornering hard in mine. I would have gone for buckets long ago, but the folding ability is required for getting the kids into the back. I also find the seats to not be wide enough at shoulder level, and I'm a very standard size human.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cupholder as standard
Glovebox on 3.4s

Kept the non-electronic frunk opening on the earlier cars as standard throughout
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin996RSR wrote:
EGTE wrote:
Better seats.


Yep, with you on that. I really have to brace myself against the door or centre console when cornering hard in mine. I would have gone for buckets long ago, but the folding ability is required for getting the kids into the back. I also find the seats to not be wide enough at shoulder level, and I'm a very standard size human.


Replace drivers seat, keep passenger seat?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better-feeling column stalks
Oil temp gauge
Metal bushes (ings?) in gearshift
A simple means of accessing the battery when the battery's flat on post '01 cars
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dammit wrote:
Martin996RSR wrote:
EGTE wrote:
Better seats.


Yep, with you on that. I really have to brace myself against the door or centre console when cornering hard in mine. I would have gone for buckets long ago, but the folding ability is required for getting the kids into the back. I also find the seats to not be wide enough at shoulder level, and I'm a very standard size human.


Replace drivers seat, keep passenger seat?


I could do. I have thought about it and I was worried it would look a bit daft, and the practicality aspect of only being able to get the kids out of one side might have an impact. I know CLR Richard managed to get his buckets installed in a child-freindly way, so perhaps I could go that route.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there not an MOT/safety angle about access to the rear of the car?... just supposing worse case scenario of an accident that means only the drivers side door can be opened.

There are some good aftermarket bucket seats (Recaro Sportster, Cobra?) which fold to allow access.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dammit wrote:
Designed it so that someone 6'2" could drive it comfortably without a raft of modifications would have saved me quite a bit of money.


Do you have the fully electric seats? I'm 6'2" and had a loan of a turbo with electric seats which made it feel like I was sitting with the steering wheel between my legs. My own car is a C4 with the part electric seats and I have no issues fitting with those as they go lower.

Do agree with the other posters that the seats are too narrow at the shoulders. I have considered fitting the sports seats but if they only come in full electric (higher) then I won't be fitting them.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin996RSR wrote:
Dammit wrote:
Martin996RSR wrote:
EGTE wrote:
Better seats.


Yep, with you on that. I really have to brace myself against the door or centre console when cornering hard in mine. I would have gone for buckets long ago, but the folding ability is required for getting the kids into the back. I also find the seats to not be wide enough at shoulder level, and I'm a very standard size human.


Replace drivers seat, keep passenger seat?


I could do. I have thought about it and I was worried it would look a bit daft, and the practicality aspect of only being able to get the kids out of one side might have an impact. I know CLR Richard managed to get his buckets installed in a child-freindly way, so perhaps I could go that route.


I’d also be very keen to hear if there’s a solution for kids and fixed buckets to live in harmony - if anyone has one Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great responses so far.

Agreed, it was a cost cutting period but we’re playing fantasy 996 launch lol

Some very valid points, nikasil, stainless steel clamps/bolts are a definite.

Keep it going, fun.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

996 Carrera 2S to the line-up (i.e. turbo body, RWD, NA engine)

Mezger engine for all 996 variants

Oil temperature gauge
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