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Richtw
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 7:44 am    Post subject: 10 year refresh... have i missed anything? Reply with quote

So my car 997.2 C4S is coming up for 10 years old next year and I am planning for the following:

Front coffin arms (they need doing)
Water pump (because I am paranoid)
Tandem pump (as above)

Is there anything else that I should consider? The car has been serviced well through its life to the books with regular oil changes, plugs, serpentine belts, had the PDK oil changed last year etc etc....

Anything else I should look at as part of my massive paranoia which in my head leaves me stranded in the new forest with my engine in bits all over the road Wink

Thanks and Merry Christmas everyone....
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is that you have to drop the engine in order to do the tandem pump (happy to be corrected on this). If so, that gives access to the pipes (coolant? brake fluid? not sure) that run above the engine, so they could be replaced as a preventative.
Also, take off the front bumper to see whether the rads and condensors need to be replaced.
BTW, which garage do you use? I ask because I'm quite close to Winchester, so just curious.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Engine Mounts? depends on the mileage and use

rear anti roll bar bushes

ally plates that cover the spark plugs?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I highly doubt the tandem pump needs an engine drop as it's right at the back of the engine near the exhaust. Water pump requires a bit more effort as from what I've read in the past requires supporting the engine to get to the pump, but not engine out to do either job.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coolant expansion tank?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a 2010 car it's not ten next year.

I’d just replace anything worn and keep up with servicing. I’m not convinced some of the preventative measures are worthwhile based on low rate of failure.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Magic919 wrote:
For a 2010 car it's not ten next year.

I’d just replace anything worn and keep up with servicing. I’m not convinced some of the preventative measures are worthwhile based on low rate of failure.


Agree with this 100%. There is a guy on PH who has just clocked over 100K in a 987 Spyder, which is an awsome achievment in itself, during that time all he has had to do is service it.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Young man .. replaceing parts that are not broken Hand

Lol fair enough it your that worryed but if you take a photo of the tandem pump i can soon tell you if it needs replaceing or not .

I also dont think i ive replaced a Gen 2 water pump yet .. might have .. i just dont remember seeing one go as of yet .

There is nothing really that sticks out as they are pretty reliable so far .. but 2 items which should have been checked on serviceing is plugs replaced every 4 years and the drive belt tensioner .. thats a must to have that checked .

The tensioner is actually on a pivot , to a lot of guys they change the belt but dont realise its the bolt moveing as the tensioner pivot has seized .
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 10 year old 997.1 has had the following after 50,000

Tandem pump
All exhaust fixings
Front coolant pipes
Front and rear diagonal arms / track control arms
Front and rear top mounts and bump stops
New dampers (but that was by choice).
Steering links
New front condensers
Belt tensioner plus belt, and a pulley in there too.

And about to get new heat shields.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Counter Of Beans wrote:
My understanding is that you have to drop the engine in order to do the tandem pump (happy to be corrected on this). If so, that gives access to the pipes (coolant? brake fluid? not sure) that run above the engine, so they could be replaced as a preventative.
Also, take off the front bumper to see whether the rads and condensors need to be replaced.
BTW, which garage do you use? I ask because I'm quite close to Winchester, so just curious.


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Jam911
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can you tell when you need to replace the drive belt tensioner?

Do all the rollers need replacing too?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jam911 wrote:
How can you tell when you need to replace the drive belt tensioner?

Do all the rollers need replacing too?


Its only the gen 2 belt tensioner that suffers .. Gen 1 is normally fine.

To check that and any of the other idlers then you first have to have a noise .. no noise and no fault Very Happy

You would remove the airbox then pop off the drive belt .. then its just a case of spinning each pully in turn and seeing which one makes a noise .
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info DeMort
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deMort wrote:
I also dont think i ive replaced a Gen 2 water pump yet .. might have .. i just dont remember seeing one go as of yet .


Mine has required replacement twice! AFAIK, they were notoriously a little bit dodgy. The first replacement was handled by the previous owner and the second by us (at around £1,200 incl. labour I believe).

I have however been reliably informed that the part has since been rectified by Porsche to address its tendency to fail, and that if yours requires changing it shouldn't happen again. Hope so anyway Question
 
  
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