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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:10 am    Post subject: Creating a Rallye car replica Reply with quote

So i keep seeing 964's(?) being jacked up for the Rallye/Paris Dakar look and im liking it alot.

However, to purchase one of these cars (one is going to the Autosport Auction in Jan), then you need to part with 60-70k.

So as im not interested in doing that, im wondering what components youd need to do it?

IM quite tempted to do this as recently ive been driving down undulating roads.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like this



https://www.topgear.com/car-news/la-motor-show-2018/porsches-cayman-gt4-rally-car-awaiting-production

https://uk.motor1.com/news/282235/porsche-cayman-rally-needs-100-buyers/
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like this?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-GT3-996-RALLY-CAR-2003-Genuine-GT3-with-6-Speed-Sequential-FIA-Rally/332905564271?hash=item4d82b7c86f:g:nH0AAOSwwTFb~EA2:rk:50:pf:0


Also take a look at Tuthill Porsche

https://www.tuthillporsche.com/

https://www.tuthillporsche.com/product/porsche-911-rgt-wrc-rally-car-997-991-gt3/
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was thinking more like this
https://www.motorsportauctions.com/category/329/Historic-Rally-Cars/listings/41697/Porsche-911-Safari-Spec-Rally-Car.html?fbclid=IwAR3p6QD-9Wa-Yo9sPGcvGFNui7e_8WUDBdriI138C5TXi9SQZd05uOLHWXU

In looks.

Looking at those 996 rally cars, they all seem to run at stock height.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kingston wrote:
Looking at those 996 rally cars, they all seem to run at stock height.


Ah, you want a cayenne?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends how far you want to go, taller springs and some stickers will be pretty cheap, a full rally prep'd build will be very expensive.

There's only one rally 911 though.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it a case of just getting Ohlin R&T and having them at full height?

Ive got MeisterR coilovers on my daily and i know i can jack that up by a good few inches if required
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, not for me. A rally rep that never enters a rally.

You may as well do this. Very Happy

https://youtu.be/vnD8Rk_-u5k


Rally cars look awful aesthetically but they serve a purpose and are mega impressive at what they do. To have the looks but none of the engineering would be a bit of a no no for me.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about this? 😎
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw this one in Savanna in the US in 2016




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918 maybe:






 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why stop at a 911 when you could have one of these.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:40 am    Post subject: Rally Car Reply with quote

We saw Henri Toivonen's Corsica car at the Summer Festival
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... but to answer your question, I see no reason why you shouldn't create a replica (it's no different from adding a bunch of Martini/Rothmans/Gulf vinyl decals to make it look like a race car), but I think you need to decide if you want to create a full on Dakar/Safari rally car (the big wheels/massive ride height/roof rack set up), a gravel spec rally car (raised ride height, aluminium skid plates, knobbly tyres on smallish rims), or a tarmac special (wide semi-slicks, cage/buckets, spots) and then do a proper job. It might turn out to be pretty expensive if you want to rock the proper fully adjustable suspension though.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its the arch clearance and big chunky tyres that.

So the suspension - Ohlin R&T wound up to max height?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaxA wrote:
... but to answer your question, I see no reason why you shouldn't create a replica (it's no different from adding a bunch of Martini/Rothmans/Gulf vinyl decals to make it look like a race car), but I think you need to decide if you want to create a full on Dakar/Safari rally car (the big wheels/massive ride height/roof rack set up), a gravel spec rally car (raised ride height, aluminium skid plates, knobbly tyres on smallish rims), or a tarmac special (wide semi-slicks, cage/buckets, spots) and then do a proper job. It might turn out to be pretty expensive if you want to rock the proper fully adjustable suspension though.


The easiest one for me wold be the tarmac one as i have 3/4 components and doing the lights wouldnt be hard.

I guess we dont see the 996 in the Dakar style due to brakes vs wheels/tyres vs arch clearance

Gravel spec - im not sure what the smallest would be to fit over my pccb callipers
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kingston wrote:
I think its the arch clearance and big chunky tyres that.

So the suspension - Ohlin R&T wound up to max height?


I don't know but when I get home I shall go and have a look at my other car to see how far I might wind it up (let's call it a winter set up) on the Öhlins R&Ts. And if I soften it all off, I'll get all that pitch, squat and roll too...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a word with Exe-TC... they build suspension for modern rally spec 911s.

Won't come cheap though! £Ohlins+...

https://www.exe-tc.co.uk/porsche
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaxA wrote:
kingston wrote:
I think its the arch clearance and big chunky tyres that.

So the suspension - Ohlin R&T wound up to max height?


I don't know but when I get home I shall go and have a look at my other car to see how far I might wind it up (let's call it a winter set up) on the Öhlins R&Ts. And if I soften it all off, I'll get all that pitch, squat and roll too...


If you could please, whats the other car that has Oh R&T?
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