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Chigster
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:54 pm    Post subject: Ouch ... Bills bills bills Reply with quote

So the Targa went for its MOT today - Passed with no advisories ... Very Happy

Happy Days ... or so I thought ...

Inspection accompanying major service has thrown up:

Engine Mounts worn
Front Shocks Corroded
Front Radiator Mount Corroded
Coolant pipe Corroded
Solenoids Corroded (Hilift I think)

Need to find myself a garage pronto! She doesn't like sitting on the drive in the rain and snow Sad

And I just had a full roof overhaul, plus coil packs 4 months ago Sad
 
  
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kas750
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All sounds pretty standard fare for a 996.
I wouldnt worry too much and just slowly work through the list as and when funds allow thumbsup
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Engine mounts drop .. we advise them and handleing will be a little better when replaced .. you dont have to atm .

front shocks corroded .. yup .. they all are ,, if not leaking and they wont be then leave ... unless OCD .

Rad mount .. its rusty .. unless OCD leave .

Coolant pipe .. cant say but probably a do item .

Corroded solinoids .. yup .. they do .. they still work .. they dont need changeing and no one but people like me will ever see them .

Is this an OPC inspection as it certainly sounds like it.

I would add .. engine worn as not new .. replacement required .. sorry .. its late , im tired and this is a list of Nothing you have been given and it annoys me ... nothing to do with you what so ever .
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would add .. engine worn as not new .. replacement required .. sorry .. its late , im tired and this is a list of Nothing you have been given and it annoys me ... nothing to do with you what so ever .


Floor Floor Floor Floor Floor Floor

Top Bloke deMort

They're all pushing 15-20 years old now - just treat everything as a rolling resto!

I've got LandRovers so I'm used to it!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The radiator supports don't seem to be well protected from new. The ones on my C2 were beyond help but the ones on my C4 can just be cleaned up, repainted and refitted. As said above, cars are getting on, they need bits here and there. So many opportunities for upgrades..

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had a minor service and an MOT at an OPC. No problem with the OPC they were helpful and polite as always.

But just like above the things that the check showed up were interesting. Some will be planned to be done (by an indie) and some were useful to know but I will sleep at night.

At £168 per hour at the OPC it's unlikely that the work will be carried out at the OPC.

As I said, I have no complaints about the OPC and the service staff and engineers. I have a nice video of the underneath of my car!!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At what point in time did £168 per hour become OK for working on a car?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haaaaaaawwwww Much!?

Is that the discounted rate for the 'modern classics'?

They must be earning almost as much as plumbers on a weekend!? Dont know
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The minor service is reasonable, £325 and includes oil and filter plus particle filter and some sealing rings. Possibly a lot of money for a stamp in the book.
Brake fluid change is £78 which is fine with me. MOT £55.
Remove front PU and check condensers and clear out crap £125. Worth it for me as I would probably bust the PU if I tried to do it myself. £33 for front wiper blades (seems reasonable). New oil filter housing £45.

Now comes the fun.(these are just quotes)

A Porsche battery is £362!!
Replace both exhaust turbo heat shields £1254
Replace exhaust manifold nuts £670
Replace door check strap + membrane £333
Replace window regulator cable due to door glass creak £168
Scuffed front lip spoiler £369!!!

So approx £3k to fix this lot and i haven't included a slight a/c gas leak.

Heat shields will need doing but the rest??????

Right, where is Ken's phone number?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exhaust heat shields £1254 Floor
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

darktrojen wrote:
Exhaust heat shields £1254 Floor


For the turbos!! Come on!! A bargain! puh
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deMort wrote:
Engine mounts drop .. we advise them and handleing will be a little better when replaced .. you dont have to atm .

front shocks corroded .. yup .. they all are ,, if not leaking and they wont be then leave ... unless OCD .

Rad mount .. its rusty .. unless OCD leave .

Coolant pipe .. cant say but probably a do item .

Corroded solinoids .. yup .. they do .. they still work .. they dont need changeing and no one but people like me will ever see them .

Is this an OPC inspection as it certainly sounds like it.

I would add .. engine worn as not new .. replacement required .. sorry .. its late , im tired and this is a list of Nothing you have been given and it annoys me ... nothing to do with you what so ever .


Thanks Demort.
It’s actually at an indie and some of it unfortunately needs doing. Solenoids were causing misfire and rough runnng. Radiator mount has actually broken off and engine mounts were my suggestion as it was getting clunky on bumps.
Will
Have a chat with the garage on Monday.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once replaced they should see you for another 15 years
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sarfend wrote:

Replace exhaust manifold nuts £670


I’d bite their hand off if yours are original.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

someone on here (Wasz??) recommended Rockauto to source the engine mounts as they were made by OEM manufacturer and £55 each.

I went the 993 RS mount route on mine.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could half that bill easily by going to a specialist.

A bosch battery from ECP with on line discount is like £100.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

deMort wrote:
Engine mounts drop .. we advise them and handleing will be a little better when replaced .. you dont have to atm .

front shocks corroded .. yup .. they all are ,, if not leaking and they wont be then leave ... unless OCD .

Rad mount .. its rusty .. unless OCD leave .

Coolant pipe .. cant say but probably a do item .

Corroded solinoids .. yup .. they do .. they still work .. they dont need changeing and no one but people like me will ever see them .

Is this an OPC inspection as it certainly sounds like it.

I would add .. engine worn as not new .. replacement required .. sorry .. its late , im tired and this is a list of Nothing you have been given and it annoys me ... nothing to do with you what so ever .


I really like the cut of your jib thumbsup
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough young man Smile

For me i often get a list of work to do that a customer has been advised and when i start to look im confused as to just why im replaceing the items.

Too see what looked like the same happening to you got me a little annoyed Embarassed

I actually went to do discs and pads all round on a Car this morning that the customer had been told needed replaceing ..

Front pads had not yet reached the sensor wires but fair enough they wouldnt last another year , rear pads and discs were 50 % worn .. so about 2 - 3 years of life left in them .. sigh .
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

darktrojen wrote:
Exhaust heat shields £1254 Floor


The turbo heat shields are ~£70 each, can't say for the exhaust ones.

I had the manifold and turbo studs replaced on my turbo recently. Titanium items were just over £200 plus 8 hours labour at my amazing local indy for removal/replacement, and half of them snapped.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plynchy wrote:
darktrojen wrote:
Exhaust heat shields £1254 Floor


The turbo heat shields are ~£70 each, can't say for the exhaust ones.

I had the manifold and turbo studs replaced on my turbo recently. Titanium items were just over £200 plus 8 hours labour at my amazing local indy for removal/replacement, and half of them snapped.


So 8 hours at £168 is £1344 plus £200 is £1544 at the OPC and they quoted £670 hence the previous comment to 'bite their hand off'.

All very confusing.
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