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Aphill80
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi ,

I could be interested in this. I have front top mounts to do and some other possible suspension creeks which will result in a new GEO... so maybe this is the perfect time to upgrade the springs.

As posted above already would be keen to improve stance and performance have also been considering spacers..

Andy
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I managed to tag on to the last group buy and I would highly recommend the Techart spring. A couple of photos showing a standard 997.1 Carrera with standard supension vs my car with the Techart springs.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just the post i wanted to see... QQ.. is this with or without PASM
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aphill80 wrote:
Just the post i wanted to see... QQ.. is this with or without PASM


drops 15mm with PASM and 20mm without PASM for the Techarts Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The photos are of a standard 997.1 C2 - no PASM
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok i have PASM Is 15mm from a stance point of view enough?

can/do people go lower?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aphill80 wrote:
ok i have PASM Is 15mm from a stance point of view enough?

can/do people go lower?

A


People do drop 25mm and 30mm but I liked the height with Techarts much less scraping over humps etc that I get with my gen2 dropped on H&R springs. and 15mm on a PASM thats already 10mm lower than a non PASM means in theory you should be 5mm lower than Jons non PASM car in the pic Thumb IMO if you went lower it would start to look slammed
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, i have PASM when pressing the button will it lower to 15mm ? And pressing back again will take up to 20mm is that correct?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-- 997 -- wrote:
Ok, i have PASM when pressing the button will it lower to 15mm ? And pressing back again will take up to 20mm is that correct?

Cheers

J


Hi J, what I managed to find out is:

if your car does not have PASM then the springs drop it by 20mm
if your car does have PASM then the springs drop it by 15mm, so in addition to pressing the PASM you will get a further 10mm:

Without PASM = 20mm
With PASM 15 + 10 = 25mm

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christ i am learning loads now..

So new question

if you leave car with PASM button pressed and switch off you get:

Full 25mm lower parked!

or

its self levels to an ignition off 15mm lower then stock



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John997 wrote:
-- 997 -- wrote:
Ok, i have PASM when pressing the button will it lower to 15mm ? And pressing back again will take up to 20mm is that correct?

Cheers

J


Hi J, what I managed to find out is:

if your car does not have PASM then the springs drop it by 20mm
if your car does have PASM then the springs drop it by 15mm, so in addition to pressing the PASM you will get a further 10mm:

Without PASM = 20mm
With PASM 15 + 10 = 25mm

Cheers,
John


Jeeeesus christ John997, ill have 15mm drop then pressing the PASM ill get a further 10mm drop ??? mmmmmmm..... bloody hell id rather have the configuration of 15mm drop then pressing the button for a further 5mm drop to get a total 20mm!!! Never mind we need to get these springs at the lowest price possible !!

Cheers...

J
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some clarification needed here I think!

PASM and pressing the PASM button does not lower the car - it just stiffens up the suspension.

The ride heights are fixed. A car with PASM is 10mm lower than one without when both are on standard springs.

The Techart springs are 15mm shorter than PASM springs and 25mm shorter than non-PASM springs - Therefore they will lower a non PASM car by 25mm and a PASM equipped car by 15mm compared to standard - again both will have fixed ride heights and pressing the PASM button merely stiffens the suspension.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

monster wrote:
Some clarification needed here I think!

PASM and pressing the PASM button doesn't lower the car - it just stiffens up the suspension.

The ride heights are fixed. A car with PASM is 10mm lower than one without when both are on standard springs.

Therefore these Techart springs lower a non PASM car by 25mm and a PASM equipped car by 15mm again both will have fixed ride heights and pressing the PASM burrow merely stiffens the suspension.


Grin ah you got there before me Tim Thumb yes gents as Tim says the PASM cars are set 10mm lower than non PASM the springs will lower it to the new ride height and it will stay at that ride height pressing the button only stiffens the ride it doesnt change the height like air ride suspension would Thumb

heres some pics of my gen1 with Techarts fitted at different angles to hopefully give you an idea.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil & Tim,

Stand corrected and thanks for the info, apreciated guys worship worship
 
  
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John997
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil, those pics are the dog's Boolick's mate Thumb Thumb


Phil 997 wrote:
monster wrote:
Some clarification needed here I think!

PASM and pressing the PASM button doesn't lower the car - it just stiffens up the suspension.

The ride heights are fixed. A car with PASM is 10mm lower than one without when both are on standard springs.

Therefore these Techart springs lower a non PASM car by 25mm and a PASM equipped car by 15mm again both will have fixed ride heights and pressing the PASM burrow merely stiffens the suspension.


Grin ah you got there before me Tim Thumb yes gents as Tim says the PASM cars are set 10mm lower than non PASM the springs will lower it to the new ride height and it will stay at that ride height pressing the button only stiffens the ride it doesnt change the height like air ride suspension would Thumb

heres some pics of my gen1 with Techarts fitted at different angles to hopefully give you an idea.
 
  
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Aphill80
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the clarity and great photos

Sorry last question.... Phill997

in your pics is your car running spacers? its stance is

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aphill80 wrote:
thanks for the clarity and great photos

Sorry last question.... Phill997

in your pics is your car running spacers? its stance is

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Thanks for your comments about my old gen1 gents

It is running OE 5mm all round but the aftermarket alloys are 8.5" and 11" so I suggest you consider the tried and tested 7mm and 15mm spacers or wait until its lowered and the top camber pulled it slightly and then measure and see what you need. also remember only use hubcentric spacers IMO on anything over 5mm although some will say a 7mm non hub shim is ok but its very close to the max. Thumb Porsche shop amongst others do a good range of spacers including shims with hub spigots down to 3mm.

heres a comparison the gen2 is a 4S with the same alloys on as the gen1 so the offsets needed different spacers to get the stance right so after trying a number of different sizes ended up with 3mm front and 17mm rear this one is lowered on H&R which lower slightly more than the techarts and do scrape road humps a lot.

I hope the pics help you visualise what you personally are looking for Thumb
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gentle Bump, recap we have so far:

1.. John997
2.. --997--

Will check when I can today, if I don't update the list then please message us and I will get back ASAP.

Thanks,
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’m down for the five plus price Smile
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

keendean wrote:
I’m down for the five plus price Smile


Put them pearly whites away !!

Cheers Dean, will update the list
 
  
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