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JayG60
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:48 pm    Post subject: PROJECT HALF A CUP LS3 Swap? Reply with quote

First of all, hello to all of you. I have loitered around on here a bit when I had a 964 (10 years ago) then a 996 a couple of years ago, but I am now properly getting into Porsche ownership again before I am 40 how I have always really wanted to.
That means with a proper project that will totally consume me and I am sure will mean I need lots of information and assistance from you lovely people.
I have massively missed the car scene over the last few years and am excited to be back in it with my new project.

So here it is. A 997 C2S, 2005 in Seal Grey (for now).
Plan is to build (as the thread title suggests) a nod to a Porsche Cup 997, but for the road.
The start point for this is the car comes with an engine already in need of help. Having scoured the web for a suitably poorly car to start from I finally found this gem. Engine blown but otherwise exceptional condition and a great spec for the project.
No sunroof, no wiper, a few nice bits to sell on (Nav, Black leather Sports seats, 19" Lobsters etc..)
So far it has just been a case of getting her in the garage, tidying up and getting the engine on the stand to have a proper look. More will follow but here are a few pictures to give you some idea.

Cheers

Jay

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some more
 



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Pip1968
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will keep an eye on this as I am very interested to see how you get on.

Are you going to source a Mezger engine or is this more of a visual transition ie lose some weight and tune the existing engine??

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James M-S
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back!

Nice plate on the car, and the bodywork looks good too.

Project sounds very interesting.

I may be interested in the seats.... Smile

Wish my garage was that tidy and clean!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More interested in losing weight and improving chassis dynamics than gaining power first. I want the car to sit right, corner right and feel right before I up the BHP too much.
Planning on dropping as much weight as I can without completely losing daily drivability. My threshold is probably much higher than most of what is considered daily drivability too. Very Happy
 
  
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JayG60
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately the plate doesn't stay with the car nooo

The garage has been put together over the last couple of years in preparation for this project.

Oh and I am in Cheshire by the way
 
  
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Phil 997
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay, this is my sort of thread, looking forward to seeing what you do and how you overcome things like "do I have a fuel filler in middle of the bonnet or do I keep it on the wing " Thumb Stay Stay
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JayG60
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope it’s entertaining Phil. Probably keep the filler in the wing, but want to go carbon or fibreglass bonnet to keep weight down.
 
  
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MaxA
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has the potential to be really interesting. For what it's worth, I think you're heading in the right direction, focusing on weight, stopping and cornering.

I'd be interested in what you have in mind: are you stripping the interior, seal sealant, stripping the harness, and adding a MOMO, buckets, cage and harnesses, or somewhere in between? What about the exterior panels? Windows? Rose jointed suspension parts? Do you have a target weight? Are you going to need silicon ear plugs?

I'm really not trying to be provocative but I'm really curious about where you are willing to go in order to still keep it "drivable" (ie road legal and number plated)? And final question: do you intend to track the car at the end of this, or keep it 'fast road'? Grin
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Robert SausageTrousers
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming from your username you're the same Jay from the Corrado Forum that built the Corrado with Audi dash etc years ago, this'll be one to watch!
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert SausageTrousers wrote:
Assuming from your username you're the same Jay from the Corrado Forum that built the Corrado with Audi dash etc years ago, this'll be one to watch!


Was just going to say the same, Mr Renshaw?

Good luck. Im back with C2 996 after a last foray into Corrado's.
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PeterS
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking forward to seeing how this goes.

And of course, as we all know, it's going to end up a lot better, a lot more extreme and be a lot bigger job than you intended.

Good luck.

Off to search the Corrado forum now....
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back JayG60 with an excellent post and project on the cards, i am really looking forward to the build on your car already! Subscribed

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a few whom have done/are doing a similar thing with 996's, given the platforms are very similar there are informative threads on the 996 board that are worth a visit for research/inspiration.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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JayG60
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers everyone.
Yes I am the same Jay Renshaw who built the Corrado (resto mod as its called nowadays) with at the time a modern running gear, wiring, engine etc.. see pics attached.
That was much more a GT and show car and my intent with the Porsche is to build an extreme daily built to be just about practical enough to live with every day, but be very capable on the track given that I live close enough to Oulton Park that it would be a waste not to make the most of it.

My "vision" if you can call it that is to build a gentlemens racer. So classic touches and colours, but on modern underpinnings.
This will be a progression, with some big chunks undertaken at the beginning, then hopefully gradual improvements over time.
Overall the plan is to have a mix of standard/GT3 and Cup all throughout the car, but hopefully thought through and working together.
Engine will start fairly OEM with some track suitable upgrades (I need more understanding/research on this). Suspension will be as adjustable as I can make it, but still able to cope with UK weather (limited rose joints), but coilovers, camber plates etc..
Bodywork will be pretty much Cup, minus the fuel filler and retaining the steel doors for road protection as I will probably only run a half cage.
Interior will be a kind of clubsport spec with possibly a few unique cup touches thrown in.
I would like this to be a beautifully presented car if I can, but I have a lot to do.... Very Happy
I am probably the most excited about this of anyone so I hope its interesting for everyone to follow and I know I have a hell of a lot to learn about the 997 and to be honest Porsches in general so I will have lots and lots of questions and I know this is the right place as it seems an open minded and helpful forum from what I have seen, like the Corrado forum was 14 years ago when I built that car.

Cheers

Jay
 



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Robert SausageTrousers
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A blast from the past! Do you know if the Corrado's still around? it'd be a shame if it was broken or whatever. I was a moderator on the Corrado Forum for a number of years and remember the shock waves your car caused at the time, it really was revolutionary.

Good luck with the 997, I absolutely love mine it's a great step up from the Corrado.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So if I distill that out, it's an extreme daily, well presented, classic colour schemed, gentleman's racer.

I'm thinking full leather vented buckets, maybe some houndstooth interior fabrics, integrated leather-wrapped roll cage, quiet exterior colour scheme in a nice 70s pastel, no stickers, stripes or contrast panels (too Outlaw), Öhlins, some derivative of the Fuchs alloys (1552s?), black painted Brembos and Cup2 tyres. Or some such. Sounds good.

And if it's even half as well presented as that Corrado, it'll be a thing of joy to behold.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay, heres my first tip to you , read fully this thread from ELA as he got very serious about dropping wieght on his 996 , he's been a bit quiet recently due to starting a new job. but theres a huge amount of info and tips for you in the thread.

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=106137

hope you find the read interesting mate. Thumb Thumb
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JayG60
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaxA wrote:
So if I distill that out, it's an extreme daily, well presented, classic colour schemed, gentleman's racer.

I'm thinking full leather vented buckets, maybe some houndstooth interior fabrics, integrated leather-wrapped roll cage, quiet exterior colour scheme in a nice 70s pastel, no stickers, stripes or contrast panels (too Outlaw), Öhlins, some derivative of the Fuchs alloys (1552s?), black painted Brembos and Cup2 tyres. Or some such. Sounds good.

And if it's even half as well presented as that Corrado, it'll be a thing of joy to behold.


Oh my goodness Max, have you been stalking me or something?!? That is exactly my plan, almost to the letter!!!
Pressure is on now to actually make it real I guess 😀
 
  
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