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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:58 pm    Post subject: 997 poss 991 Purchase advice Reply with quote

I'm in the fortunate position of being able to get back into the Porsche game - i've previously had a 993 Turbo and then a 993 Targa over in Asia Pac and also driven a couple of 997s - Turbo and 2s and a 4s of friends. I know a bit - enough to be dangerous !

Due to a car shuffle I've a budget of about £55k and am looking at a couple of 997 C2S with circa 25kish +/- miles on them. All so far at OPCs.

So....the main questions, and all sage advice gratefully recieved:
1) If it's from an OPC and under 2 yr warranty would you get a full PPI done ?
2) I prefer the 2s handling but could be swayed by a 4s - thoughts ?
3) any other things to watch out for as a relative newbie ?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: 997 poss 991 Purchase advice Reply with quote

Albachap wrote:

1) If it's from an OPC and under 2 yr warranty would you get a full PPI done ?
2) I prefer the 2s handling but could be swayed by a 4s - thoughts ?
3) any other things to watch out for as a relative newbie ?



Welcome

1) Yes, if it has a warranty then no.
2) Depends if you are an ass man or not Grin
3) Selling a number plate on here wack

Any pics of your 993T Camera food food

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: 997 poss 991 Purchase advice Reply with quote

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3) Selling a number plate on here wack


Even if I had the world's best Porsche number plate, I'd dare not advertise the sale of it here. The burn is deep
Now where are these pics of the 993 Turbo food food
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 997 poss 991 Purchase advice Reply with quote

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Even if I had the world's best Porsche number plate, I'd dare not advertise the sale of it here


Do you mean this one Dont know

http://dvlaregistrations.direct.gov.uk/search/auction-plates.html?search=911%20FP&searched=true

Who's gonna get it, you or Faried Grin

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Faried for sure.
My pockets are shallow, empty and I'm tighter than a nuns nasty. Grin
If, and I mean IF, I were going to splash out on a number plate it would be a 00XX type plate. My value system doesn't have the algorithm to justify the cost, so it a case of wishing unfortunately.
Now where is my Smythson notepad and Mont Blanc pen, time to doodle.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: 997 poss 991 Purchase advice Reply with quote

Albachap wrote:


So....the main questions, and all sage advice gratefully recieved:

1) If it's from an OPC and under 2 yr warranty would you get a full PPI done ?
2) I prefer the 2s handling but could be swayed by a 4s - thoughts ?
3) any other things to watch out for as a relative newbie ?



Welcome to 911uk

Re (1) An OPC car wouldn't get the 2 year warranty if it needed anything doing to it so, for me, an independent PPI would be a waste of money.

Re (2) I love the extra feeling of security that awd gives in damp conditions but in truth I doubt that I drive hard enough to have ever had an issue in a 2wd car. The wider rump and especially the red rear strip are big +'s.

Re (3) the 997.2 and 991.1 share fundamentally the same engine and after 8 years any major issues would be well documented by now. They're not.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1) Yes, if it has a warranty then no.
2) Depends if you are an ass man or not Grin
3) Selling a number plate on here wack


I'll be honest on 2), i probably am more attracted to the wider hipped models for sure hence every time i see a 4 or 4s i purr, perhaps I need to hone in on that then.

I'll keep my search going, theres a couple of 991 4's around that are above budget but I'm sure in this market a deal could be done. I want something understated if poss, probably not orange or with an aerokit. Am looking at a couple on the weekend (C2s) so will get a feel for what is out there, i'm in Edinburgh.

EDIT: This one has been on my list http://www.thboler.com/used-cars/8746756-porsche-911-carrera-4/

Have been hunting for snaps of the 993T, still looking, i'll put some up of the 993 Targa though. It had a nice plate as well Wink (9i1 - it was in NZ)
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That TH Boler C4 looks lovely - good price too. At that money it's difficult to choose between a fat bottomed Carrera or a slightly narrower Carrera 'S'.

The alternative is to wait 9-12 months and get the best of both, a C4S.

ps. If you particularly want a manual car that TH.B car ticks the box. They are quite rare.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been having a good scout around now, that TH Boler 4 is definitely looking like an option. Only thing stopping me is I was keen to use an OPC and get a decent warranty on it, not sure about stepping out of the dealer network, my RS4 had a load of issues but was under warranty so all fixed which has spooked me a bit !
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the Porsche warranty if you’d feel better.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't know you could do that. Assume you pay for the 111 check and then pay for warranty if it passes, will do a search on here and get some details as I'd happily pay a couple of K for that for some peace of mind.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apart from a 90 day wait at the start, that’s it.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any idea of 1st year costs, looks like the check is about 220GBP, renewal looks to be circa 1000 but wondered if a new warranty was more. Just to be informed and manage the costs being passed by 'central command' (my wife)
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheaper to do a couple of years at once. I gave up on it years ago, but it was a bit over a grand per year. Cheaper without Porsche Assistance than with.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Albachap wrote:
Any idea of 1st year costs, looks like the check is about 220GBP, renewal looks to be circa 1000 but wondered if a new warranty was more. Just to be informed and manage the costs being passed by 'central command' (my wife)


111 point check = £216 incl VAT or 10% discount for PCGB members.

New Warranty = £1100 for 12 months or £1920 for 24 months.

If you take out 24 months no mid-term check is required so you save over £450.

Porsche Assist is an extra £169 (12m) or £275 (24m).
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all for the advice. I need to go back to the drawing board and work out exactly what I want - I'm set on a 4s but I am a right picky ***** so want to actually see it, feel it and drive it before I consider a purchase.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Albachap wrote:
Didn't know you could do that. Assume you pay for the 111 check and then pay for warranty if it passes, will do a search on here and get some details as I'd happily pay a couple of K for that for some peace of mind.


If you buy a car that is SOR at a non-OPC dealers you can ask for the current owner to add the warranty. This saves the 90 day wait. Up to you if you ask them to pay for it as part of the deal. Might not get it, but asking costs nowt.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T8 wrote:
If you take out 24 months no mid-term check is required so you save over £450.


Not sure if I'm reading this correctly or not, Terry - do you mean if you extend / buy another 24 months warranty at (or prior to) the end of the existing warranty, you don't have to have the 111 point check? Thanks Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

squelch wrote:
T8 wrote:
If you take out 24 months no mid-term check is required so you save over £450.


Not sure if I'm reading this correctly or not, Terry - do you mean if you extend / buy another 24 months warranty at (or prior to) the end of the existing warranty, you don't have to have the 111 point check? Thanks Thumb


Hi squelch - you will need to pay for a fresh 111 point check before the commencement of any cover you are intending to have. You pay once whether 12 or 24 months. Obviously when nearing the end of whatever cover you sign up to (12 or 24) and you intend to have further cover and so enter into another 111 check, it makes sense to do this while you are still in your warranty period.
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