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LSDFJ00
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:15 am    Post subject: Belt time? Reply with quote

Can I ask, how many Forum members have changed the Distributor belt on their 993 and at what mileage?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I'd go off age rather than mileage. For a +20yr old car I would expect to see the history that they are on their third belt (or a third belt is due as preventative maintenance)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well worth doing, I have done three of mine this year and all were in poor condition, by that I mean if they were in plain sight, I would have changed them much earlier. (belt and bearing)

For the cost against the risk its a no brainer, for me.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the replies so far...
Trantorman, you've replaced 3 x 993 belts this year?
How many 993's do you have?

Am thinking of replacing the entire distributor unit...
Can anyone please recommend a repairer or preferably somewhere I can buy an exchange unit and the likely costs associated with each option?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarassed more than 3 Very Happy
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So how difficult are they to change ?
What would be the cost from a garage to replace ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had mine done in 2013. I went down the full exchange distributor route and had all the leads replaced at the same time. Distributor was £600 at the time.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LSDFJ00 wrote:
Thank you for the replies so far...
Trantorman, you've replaced 3 x 993 belts this year?
How many 993's do you have?

Am thinking of replacing the entire distributor unit...
Can anyone please recommend a repairer or preferably somewhere I can buy an exchange unit and the likely costs associated with each option?

Didi is the man for dizzy rebuilds, his turn around is so quick it negates an exchange unit. d964@gmx.de
I've sent 2 for my local friend and mechanic Kev recently, total saisfaction.
He will assess and replace only what is needed, belt and all bearings about £400 + p&p. No affiliation just a good guy in the same mould as ToreB and Gert Carnewal.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes done mine, which had 104k miles on it, don't think it had been replaced previously.

As Endoman says, Didi is your man if not competent with the spanners...

Trev

Be careful removing but particularly re-inserting into the case, it has to be done right.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure why you would replace the whole unit unless it was damaged?, there are some consumable items in there that can all be replaced (belt and bearings) once done you're good to go.

One belt people often don't touch is the power steering belt, sat at the back right of the engine, this belt will also degrade, often times as with mine the black plastic cover will be damaged too so replace that whilst there.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cameltoe & Heel wrote:
Not sure why you would replace the whole unit unless it was damaged?, there are some consumable items in there that can all be replaced (belt and bearings) once done you're good to go.

One belt people often don't touch is the power steering belt, sat at the back right of the engine, this belt will also degrade, often times as with mine the black plastic cover will be damaged too so replace that whilst there.

Trev


is it possible to do the PAS belt with the engine in - I've been in the area and it looked tricky to say the least...interested if anyone has successfully done it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi wilsonny,

I checked my PAS belt and replaced the cover that had 2 broken lugs on it. However, to do so I had to remove the air filter box and drop the engine down on the rear engine mounts as far as it would go. Not so much as to remove the old cover but to refit the new one. I believe that the lugs had been broken at some time during a routine service where the belt was checked. It was very hard to get the cover off with the engine in its normal position.

From what I remember if I had needed to change the belt I could have done it with the engine in situ but the belt was good.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cameltoe & Heel wrote:

"Be careful removing but particularly re-inserting into the case, it has to be done right."

I send you a removal instructions / installation instructions - just inquire at D946@gmx.de
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

decgraham wrote:
Hi wilsonny,

I checked my PAS belt and replaced the cover that had 2 broken lugs on it. However, to do so I had to remove the air filter box and drop the engine down on the rear engine mounts as far as it would go. Not so much as to remove the old cover but to refit the new one. I believe that the lugs had been broken at some time during a routine service where the belt was checked. It was very hard to get the cover off with the engine in its normal position.

From what I remember if I had needed to change the belt I could have done it with the engine in situ but the belt was good.

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thanks... so doable with some skinned knuckles by the sounds !
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,

Has anyone got part numbers for what should be replaced for 'preventative' maintenance..?

Cheers,
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a quick note... a well known specialist advises that the bearings are not currently available. There are bearings being sold for this purpose but, apparently, are just a bit smaller than the originals but can used?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all Bearings and Parts for rebuilding in stock.

INA 7201 (32x10x12,45mm)
INA NX12
Belt CONTI CT-1032
K-Pin

ask for Info !
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Diddi,

What is the cost for the replacement parts inc shipping to the UK?

Do you do exchange units? (to save my car being at the Garage for a week or so)?

I sent you a couple of emails, the first one bounced back 'Mailbox unavailable'?? I dont know if the second one got through???

Thanks,
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a seized bearing on my secondary shaft which caused my belt to break.

Used a company out in germany who do work for porsche museum. Found them via ebay.de. No affliation with the company but very happy with the service.

One thing to check is that some of the bearings are very difficult to get, so some companies have a similar bearing modified.

https://www.elferwelt.de
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

complete Set for rebuilding:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/163109915004?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
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