ES Motor 911 turbo tuning - ES650, ES750, ES850, ESXXX

Ade I just heard you blew your ES 750 engine on first outing last April at VMAX?

Is this correct? If so bad luck.

Perhaps I missed your post on here about it but if not and you did indeed lose your engine it would have been nice to let other 911UK members know the negatives about ES Motor you as well as the positives you always promote at every opportunity.

In the last 24 months I know of a 996 turbo, 997.1 turbo and now your 997.2 turbo which have lost engines with ES Motor tunes. These things happen and part of tuning but keep it real guys.

Desert Dragon said:

Ade I just heard you blew your ES 750 engine on first outing last April at VMAX?

Is this correct? If so bad luck.

Perhaps I missed your post on here about it but if not and you did indeed lose your engine it would have been nice to let other 911UK members know the negatives about ES Motor you as well as the positives you always promote at every opportunity.

In the last 24 months I know of a 996 turbo, 997.1 turbo and now your 997.2 turbo which have lost engines with ES Motor tunes. These things happen and part of tuning but keep it real guys.

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schadenfreude

Not nice IMHO

HSC911 said:

Desert Dragon said:

Ade I just heard you blew your ES 750 engine on first outing last April at VMAX?

Is this correct? If so bad luck.

Perhaps I missed your post on here about it but if not and you did indeed lose your engine it would have been nice to let other 911UK members know the negatives about ES Motor you as well as the positives you always promote at every opportunity.

In the last 24 months I know of a 996 turbo, 997.1 turbo and now your 997.2 turbo which have lost engines with ES Motor tunes. These things happen and part of tuning but keep it real guys.

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schadenfreude

Not nice IMHO

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This comment is well wide of the mark.

Its simply the truth...if it saves a few other engines can only be a good thing. I note everyone doesn't seem to mind bashing DMS when there are other tunes out there just as aggressive for munching stock engines.

Ade is one of the first to agree how average DMS tunes are. Goes on about how ES Motor aren't allowed to a be a sponsor on here and Emre is a genius blah blah blah but when his engine lets go is quiet as a mouse for four months.

It would be nice to know how ESM treated him post his engine blowing. Would you not want to know as a turbo owner who might tune his car one day?

I would expect that pretty much every engine tuner will have had engines go pop. The standard engines can fail and they aren't exactly tuned for increased durability. Just a risk you take.

MC

Hi everyone, just been told about this post by a friend.

Thought its only appropriate to say my part, as i have a very well sorted ES750 991 turbo s.

I would like to say, i am not part of ES just a customer who made the jump.

All i can say is, i met Emre at the Autosport show, and after following some of his work, associated companies in US, who literally have been using his tunes for years and no problems.

Anyway, back to my car, has been to Spa, Silverstone and has been 100% solid and bomb proof. Still has the everyday useability but mind blowing perfomance if needed.

I am not a Vmax guy and dont literally drive the nuts off it, more a garage queen, but all i can see is, things can go wrong when tuning, part of the process. Most likely old components failing. A friend had his M3 engine blow recently, failed old crank, and ahd 10k forged build.

The car is question had a lot of miles on it from what i know, and was used for high speed events, so used to the max most of the time. I am yet to hear of any other problems of any other ES cars, and know most of them.

I actually know a very well specialist, who has only ever said good things about ES, hence why i made the jump. Feel free to message me, happy to give my thoughts and opinions.

All i can say faultless service and some happy customers from who i have met.

Es motors

Maybe we should all just buy 991.2 turbo s and forget the tuning! Desert dragon how's your new turbo s. Interested to hear your thoughts on the car?
Thinking about getting a 991 turbo next now my 997 turbo s is gone 😭

Keeping on topic all I hear great reviews from es motor.. all tuners have failures

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Mr02ard said:

Maybe we should all just buy 991.2 turbo s and forget the tuning! Desert dragon how's your new turbo s. Interested to hear your thoughts on the car?
Thinking about getting a 991 turbo next now my 997 turbo s is gone 😭

Keeping on topic all I hear great reviews from es motor.. all tuners have failures

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The fan boys are out.

991.2 Turbo s well. As is the 993 RS and 997.1 turbo. As are the Golf GTI, Disco 4, Landcruiser and AMG 63. Thinking about a Speciale at the mo Aaron the Baron. Keep smiling Baron of Winchester

Not sure I would be considered a 'fan boy'. Never been a customer, most likely never will be, never met the guy either. I have heard generally good things about them though, including from other tuners.

MC

ES Vulcan ES750 UK's Fastest 991.1 Turbo S Camo

Afternoon All,

I have been very fortunate to acquire the ES Motor ES750 Camo 991.1, now named the ES Vulcan.

I love to find forums who try to embark on a slating match against ES Motor built cars.

Since purchasing my car, I have driven the absolute bollocks, like I stole it as follows;

>Vmax200 on 22nd of April, 212mph on the GPS (215mph on the speedo) 5xRuns all over 210mph, blistering heat of over 25 degrees. Quickest 0-60 and 0-100mph time. Nothing quicker under a 1000hp. Ran like a dream.

>SuperSeige Event at BrandHatch on the 6th of May, 2 pace car laps and then 8 laps of the full GP circuit, £20m of Super and Hypercars. Including, Koenigsegg Agera RSN, Mclaren P1 etc etc. Not one of these cars could keep up with the ES750. Again driven very hard for 8 laps. 28+ degrees weather. Its a complete machine never skipped a beat. Neil with the Egg RSN was quoted to have said, "did the camo car come off?" he couldn't believe how quick the car was round the circuit. hitting 164mph on the straight.

>Santa Pod Raceway 17th-18th of May - Blistering heat again, over 25+ degrees, Friday, over 10 runs in the 9sec 1/4 mile. Quickest 9.6 with 1.42 60ft. I was then bombarded by the officials to come and compete in Saturdays' true street car event. To be fair, this was the true street car, with full interior, no roll cage, air con etc. out of 11 competitors I came 3rd. Needless to say, my car drove home, no starter dolly required. Again every run that day in the 9's.

After this, a simple oil and filter change due to the hard driving since I bought the car.

>Silverstone GP circuit 21st of June. Never raced at Silverstone before but needless to say, the car performed amazingly well. 163mph GPS on the Hanger straight. In excess of over 20 laps in the car driven hard. My instagram vids show the difference between the new GT2RS and the ES750, on road map setting and low boost.

This car has been driven hard since I purchased back in April. Never missed a heartbeat. Oil and filter change, that's it. Oh and shredded the Pirelli PZero Corsa front tyres, See instagram pic also

So stop all this complete nonsense of trying to disregard one of the best tuners I have ever seen in a long time. Genuine tuners of real supercars.

Follow my instagram page @ES_VULCAN and you will see it natural progression. The car is in for some new mods at present. It will be the worlds first 991.1 Turbo S to have new GT2RS Turbos fitted, not just a simple swap. New Intercooler, Pipes, Oil Lines, Water Lines, Intake Pipes, Intakes, Manifolds, titanium Exhaust. Everything has to be modified. Its amazing the RnD that goes into it with ES Motor. They think of every eventuallity.

If you want the best all-round car for driving to school and then a complete hooligan on the airstrip, 1/4mile or track, leaving Koenigsegg's behind. This is an absolutely amazing tuners dream package. If you can afford it, then don't be keyboard warriors and dismay these guys. Just love the fact that my car is quicker than any other Turbo S out their under a 1000hp.

Desert Dragon said:

HSC911 said:

Desert Dragon said:

Ade I just heard you blew your ES 750 engine on first outing last April at VMAX?

Is this correct? If so bad luck.

Perhaps I missed your post on here about it but if not and you did indeed lose your engine it would have been nice to let other 911UK members know the negatives about ES Motor you as well as the positives you always promote at every opportunity.

In the last 24 months I know of a 996 turbo, 997.1 turbo and now your 997.2 turbo which have lost engines with ES Motor tunes. These things happen and part of tuning but keep it real guys.

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schadenfreude

Not nice IMHO

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This comment is well wide of the mark.

Its simply the truth...if it saves a few other engines can only be a good thing. I note everyone doesn't seem to mind bashing DMS when there are other tunes out there just as aggressive for munching stock engines.

Ade is one of the first to agree how average DMS tunes are. Goes on about how ES Motor aren't allowed to a be a sponsor on here and Emre is a genius blah blah blah but when his engine lets go is quiet as a mouse for four months.

It would be nice to know how ESM treated him post his engine blowing. Would you not want to know as a turbo owner who might tune his car one day?

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I just didn't think that you needed to direct it to anyone personally.

Why not just direct it to ES rather than Ade (I don't know these people either)

Off to watch the match now anyway :thumb:

HSC911 said:

Desert Dragon said:

HSC911 said:

Desert Dragon said:

Ade I just heard you blew your ES 750 engine on first outing last April at VMAX?

Is this correct? If so bad luck.

Perhaps I missed your post on here about it but if not and you did indeed lose your engine it would have been nice to let other 911UK members know the negatives about ES Motor you as well as the positives you always promote at every opportunity.

In the last 24 months I know of a 996 turbo, 997.1 turbo and now your 997.2 turbo which have lost engines with ES Motor tunes. These things happen and part of tuning but keep it real guys.

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schadenfreude

Not nice IMHO

Click to expand...

This comment is well wide of the mark.

Its simply the truth...if it saves a few other engines can only be a good thing. I note everyone doesn't seem to mind bashing DMS when there are other tunes out there just as aggressive for munching stock engines.

Ade is one of the first to agree how average DMS tunes are. Goes on about how ES Motor aren't allowed to a be a sponsor on here and Emre is a genius blah blah blah but when his engine lets go is quiet as a mouse for four months.

It would be nice to know how ESM treated him post his engine blowing. Would you not want to know as a turbo owner who might tune his car one day?

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I just didn't think that you needed to direct it to anyone personally.

Why not just direct it to ES rather than Ade (I don't know these people either)

Off to watch the match now anyway :thumb:

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It's Ade's car?

ES Motor cars will blow engines just as stock cars will blow their engines. It's not helpful how Ade only shares the good info and non of the not so good info IMO. Most of us would never have known.

ES Vulcan that sounds like a dream build. You only really find out how good your tuning partner is when things go wrong hence the question on this forum to Ade.

Maybe you'd be kind enough to start a build thread on here as it sounds a very exciting project?

The Mezger engine is a race bred base so we all expect it to be very strong and, as the threads say, they can be tuned to 1000+ bhp.

Rather than the negative comments (we're really not that sort of forum) it would be interesting to know what went wrong with each of these cars. Is there a common theme or just 3 different failures.

Of course the issue could be driver error as well!

maldren said:

The Mezger engine is a race bred base so we all expect it to be very strong and, as the threads say, they can be tuned to 1000+ bhp.

Rather than the negative comments (we're really not that sort of forum) it would be interesting to know what went wrong with each of these cars. Is there a common theme or just 3 different failures.

Of course the issue could be driver error as well!

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All very good points.

Gen 2 997 turbo dropped the mezger

Short response as i'm away for the Trax event and i dont like typing on my phone. Yes my engine let go at the last vmax, scored bores on cylinders 3 & 4. Could have been a number of things that caused it. I've not been in a very good place at all since it happened and have been avoiding all sorts of social media after comments left by a few on here that knew and was taking pleasure from it. Talking about it was the last thing i wanted to do either on here or anywhere else. I'm only now starting to venture back into the world of social media but this post has again made me question if i want to.
I now have a brand new complete engine supplied by Porsche and fitted by Fearnsport. I will update more later, i'm already fed of of auto correct and this tiny keyboard. Those at trax are welcome to come over and chat of course

Thanks Ade. Certainly no pleasure at your engine going. Just struggle to reconcile how you post about your car setting all sorts of very high top speeds etc at the specific event and failing to also mention your engine let go in the process.

No different to Amir's ES XXX setting 238mph at VMAX a few years ago (yes amazing and very brave) and needing a complete rebuild straight after? Just an oil cooler right? Or Daryls 997.1 Turbo ES850 on GT 3071 with f"”"”d engine and turbos. To be fair to ES both Amir and Daryl were looked after very well from what I hear in terms of after care. Amir should be looked after though as he's ES' UK arm.

It's the lack of transparency that I struggle with. Nothing else. A blown engine will happen to every car eventually.