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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The glass is half full! I’m going to proceed on the basis that you can have a decent stereo in a 996, anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone recommend a decent six channel amp?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or, coming at this from a slightly different angle, why should I not buy this one?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/XD600-Audio-6-Channel-Class-Amplifier/dp/B004E9QK3E
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overkill?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that's massive overkill.
Above 70mph you won't tell the difference between this and some ACME no make from China.

Get two Pioneer GM-D1004 amps. use one to power the main speakers, the other to drive the door speakers. That will do you.
and they would both fit in the old OEM amp location Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had not thought of using two smaller amps.

Would the JL 6 channel not fit in the stock location?

I am (possibly wrongly) assuming that it's easier to fit one amp rather than two?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohhh, I just remembered, this is project ridiculous! No, that amp is absolutely fine for the job!
Yes it's total overkill and you will barely use 20% of its power but I can see the attraction of it from project ridiculous point of view plus all the fiddling you can do on the amp controls..
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the view on the door speakers - good enough, or would they benefit from being changed?

Regarding the degree to which this particular project should be judged ridiculous, I'd rather rein it in somewhat - two smaller amps may well make more sense here, as that appears to be a significantly cheaper option than one larger one.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In previous installs in other cars I generally used a 4 channel to drive the main 4 speakers and a 2 channel bridged to drive a 12inch boxed sub as they can munch up some power, plus back then there were not many 5/6 channel amps around. no more difficult to wire up two than one amp as you Daisy chain the power.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Revelling in my almost total ignorance of these things I’ve found the Hertz EV 130.5 - good woofer for the doors, or insane and ridiculous?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, you have door speakers, that complicates it a bit. I think the door speakers are woofers/mids, where they get the frequency filtered I don't know. Potentially yes if you're upgrading everything else then those too, but how they are wired is another question
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you not going to go far wrong with those if they fit, yes insane and ridiculous of course..
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That’s why I was looking at the 6 channel amp:

2x mids+tweeters on dash (Hertz 100.3)
2x woofers in doors (Hertz 130.5)
2x mids+tweeters (?) rear (100.3 again?)
1x Bose sub (has own amp)

Idea was to feed the three pairs from the amp, and the sub direct from the HU
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those Pioneer amps are tiny - i have one driving the door speakers in LF mode and I think it sounds much bigger than its size suggests.
But the H/U drives the little 4" speaks - again, they aren't big speakers so it seems pointless to overpower it.

The door speakers are very good quality (better than the dash ones) and worth keeping. You'll struggle to replace them without cutting / modifications as you'll never find 5 1/2" replacements, so you'll have to use 6 1/2"

And I have a slim sub under the seat (Actually way better than I thought it would be)

But even after all that, it all gets into a losing battle with the tyre / wind noise... (But mine is a soft top)
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trial fit of the sub today as I have the car back - it's close, I suspect it could be finessed, but it clearly wants a lower centre console to be next too, and I don't have one.

I think, therefore, that either a sub-seat sub is the way to go, or rely on the door speakers for bass.

If anyone (who has a centre console, or is fearless when it comes to cutting up carpets) wants a sub please let me know.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might find a pair of slimline subs fit behind the seats on the back window like the Boxster has would work better

I’d take the sub off your hands but I’m too far away to collect!
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What under seat subs are people using? I have an active Pioneer slim line that won't fit under mine...
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the Focal iBus25 but you're right - underseat is inaccurate - it's more like "rear foot-well"
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