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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:26 pm    Post subject: My PDK is FKD !! Reply with quote

Just had a call from my local OPC earlier this afternoon to advise me that my PDK box is goosed and I need a new one. Looking at circa £9k but can’t give me an exact price yet because they’ve never had to replace one before and are still working out all the parts I need ! 2013 991.1S with 57k Miles. This is my 5th vehicle with a PDK and I’ve never had any problems at all happen prior to this. I don’t have a warranty either...... anyone else out there had issues with theirs ? Gutted.....
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes on my GT3. What was the issue?
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive seen a couple of 997 PDK that required new gearboxes .. first signs on both were a leak .

Not seen or herd of a 991 needing a box yet though .
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a new one in my 997.2. They don’t do any work on the gearboxes, so any problem can only mean a replacement gearbox.

Can’t imagine the ZF box is much different. Price sound high.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="FredGT3"]Yes on my GT3. What was the issue?[/quote

Info has been very limited; apparently the dealers aren’t allowed to take these things apart? So I’ve only been told that the box isn’t fixable based on their fault diagnosis system, so has to be replaced.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deMort wrote:
Ive seen a couple of 997 PDK that required new gearboxes .. first signs on both were a leak .

Not seen or herd of a 991 needing a box yet though .


No leaks on mine, simply the “ gearbox emergency operation” fault showed up on the dash and it wouldn’t go into any gear whether I tried it via the gear stalk or the paddles.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats actually a serious internal fault .. clutch faults will allow you to continue your journey with reduced capabilities but once the car is stopped it cant be driven again .

To be fair to OPC,s theres very little us indys can do let alone OPC guys with their hands tied .

There is almost no parts available to buy so no point stripping and investigateing .
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ouch, 9k, makes my manual gearbox rebuild that the 997.2 in for at present seem a bargain nooo nooo both the PDK and manual boxes on the 997.2 and 991 are supposed to be very solid units but I guess a few have to let go and unfortunately we are the ones its happened to. nooo
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch, any chance of dealer contribution?
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP needs to ask that question .. if he doesnt ask then the OPC is unlikely to make a request on his behalf .. customer has to request it was the rules when i was at OPC .

There should certainly be a good will contribution imho .
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in the Nissan GTR world Nissan said the same, must be replaced, I even met the product manager. When I told him we repair ours in the UK he told me I was not allowed to! Very common a few Indie's repair them for GTRs I'm hoping that this will happen for Porsche PDK's to keep the cost down

Dodson do parts for PDK's https://www.dodsonmotorsport.com/porsche/transmission.html

these do most of the bits for GTR's and the like, they are very good
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deMort wrote:
OP needs to ask that question .. if he doesnt ask then the OPC is unlikely to make a request on his behalf .. customer has to request it was the rules when i was at OPC .

There should certainly be a good will contribution imho .


I will call Porsche GB tomorrow and see if my violin skills get me anywhere. This a Porsche No.9 for me so I’m hoping brand loyalty will help.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robbiej wrote:
in the Nissan GTR world Nissan said the same, must be replaced, I even met the product manager. When I told him we repair ours in the UK he told me I was not allowed to! Very common a few Indie's repair them for GTRs I'm hoping that this will happen for Porsche PDK's to keep the cost down

Dodson do parts for PDK's https://www.dodsonmotorsport.com/porsche/transmission.html

these do most of the bits for GTR's and the like, they are very good


Thanks, might come in useful if I don’t manage to sell one of the grandkids to fund an OPC repair:0)
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

might be worth scaring them that you can get it repaired, it killed nissan dealers.....

Middlehurst gave up (sole GTR importer for 10 years for nissan)

75% of GTR's are serviced by indies even new ones. the Indies have better warrenties

Nissan replacement TM 6-12 weeks Litchfield repair 1 day to 3 weeks....depending on the problem

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JP,
Give Austrin Gearbox Specialists a ring.There at Benton industrial estate. fully qualified to dismantle all the ZF stuff.
ive just had my Audi A8 box fully refurbed from them.
Think the boss is called steve
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jptoon wrote:
deMort wrote:
OP needs to ask that question .. if he doesnt ask then the OPC is unlikely to make a request on his behalf .. customer has to request it was the rules when i was at OPC .

There should certainly be a good will contribution imho .


I will call Porsche GB tomorrow and see if my violin skills get me anywhere. This a Porsche No.9 for me so I’m hoping brand loyalty will help.


Ask the dealer. They fill in a questionnaire and get it in motion. I got some from Porsche and some from the dealer.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear about your PDK issues, what a pain in the backside that is !


Is that £9k for a new box plus
VAT
Labour
Other associate bits
Oils, grease etc

Or is that £9k all in ?

The reason I ask, is it’s always a bit of mystery as to how these items really do cost, fortunately for me I’m just about to pick up Turbo from OPC with its new shiny 2 year warranty, unfortunately it also means my credit card will take a large battering too - Swings & Roundabouts I guess.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Millsy71 wrote:
JP,
Give Austrin Gearbox Specialists a ring.There at Benton industrial estate. fully qualified to dismantle all the ZF stuff.
ive just had my Audi A8 box fully refurbed from them.
Think the boss is called steve


I already spoke to them and whilst they have the skills to repair the box, they said that Porsche won’t sell any spares, so couldn’t offer there services.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Main Force Patrol wrote:
Sorry to hear about your PDK issues, what a pain in the backside that is !


Is that £9k for a new box plus
VAT
Labour
Other associate bits
Oils, grease etc

Or is that £9k all in ?

The reason I ask, is it’s always a bit of mystery as to how these items really do cost, fortunately for me I’m just about to pick up Turbo from OPC with its new shiny 2 year warranty, unfortunately it also means my credit card will take a large battering too - Swings & Roundabouts I guess.


It’s an all in price, or will be when they’ve finalised it. Box istelf is exchange only.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jptoon wrote:
Main Force Patrol wrote:
Sorry to hear about your PDK issues, what a pain in the backside that is !


Is that £9k for a new box plus
VAT
Labour
Other associate bits
Oils, grease etc

Or is that £9k all in ?

The reason I ask, is it’s always a bit of mystery as to how these items really do cost, fortunately for me I’m just about to pick up Turbo from OPC with its new shiny 2 year warranty, unfortunately it also means my credit card will take a large battering too - Swings & Roundabouts I guess.


It’s an all in price, or will be when they’ve finalised it. Box istelf is exchange only.


Did you ask them why it is exchange if they are not fixable?

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