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RH964
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mondrian

Thanks for the message. Have you ever seen the seals sold as a bundle? I’ve looked on a few sites and there are dozens of individual parts. Guess I will call one of the sellers and ask them. Yes, can seep how all this adds up! My rear lenses and centre are more pink than red too. I did see that someone had revived theirs with wet and dry. Was going to give that a go before replacing.

Thank you for the roof info!! Unlike Porsche to rip the ar5e out of something based on demand... will make a note of Fenn Lane. Thank you.

Are the big blacks the same as Chief mentioned off a 928 S4?

Yes, body work unknowns are a bit of a concern. I either need to start playing to lottery or this has to wait until next year - suspension, wheels and tyres were this year’s big expense. The house needs some love now sadly.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just thinking aloud, has anyone here used Precision Porsche for bodywork?

If so, any good?
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought 928S4 had medium black brakes which are smaller than big red/Black. Big Blacks are off 928 GTS and are trailing mount whereas big reds are leading mount but same caliper. 964 needs leading mount so the trailing mounts need to have the bleeds and feeds swapped, when i got my car there were not!

I don't think Porsche or anyone else does a rubber trim bundle as it depends how deep you want to go.

Seen pics of a really nice backdated 964 done by precision Porsche but not up close.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"My rear lenses and centre are more pink than red too. I did see that someone had revived theirs with wet and dry. Was going to give that a go before replacing. "

On this, if you look at rennlist there are also films for sale to bring the lenses back to red. Quite a few people have used them and reported they are still looking good years later. Given the expense of replacements I'd try that first.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never found my 1993 C2 brakes lacking and drive my car pretty hard on North Yorkshires country lanes. Have you checked for plate lift in the callipers as that could hinder pad movement etc.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mondrian.

All seems a bit of a minefield to me at the moment Smile

I’ll ask my local PCGB if any members have used Precision Porsche.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephenjk wrote:

On this, if you look at rennlist there are also films for sale to bring the lenses back to red. Quite a few people have used them and reported they are still looking good years later. Given the expense of replacements I'd try that first.


Thanks Stephenjk. Will definitely look into this. To be honest, I’ve not really read too much on the Rennlist forums yet.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hot66 wrote:
Have you checked for plate lift in the callipers as that could hinder pad movement etc.


Morning Hot66
Forgive my ignorance, but how would I check for this? Just a case of pads out to see if the plates are loose?
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you take the pads out you might be able to see .. basically you get oxidisation between the calliper body & the plates the pads sit within .. this oxisidiation can cause the plates to 'lift' and restrict the pad movement ..

read this on Jackals blog

http://www.jackals-forge.com/lotus/968cs/968_platelift.htm
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hot66 wrote:
if you take the pads out you might be able to see .. basically you get oxidisation between the calliper body & the plates the pads sit within .. this oxisidiation can cause the plates to 'lift' and restrict the pad movement ..

read this on Jackals blog

http://www.jackals-forge.com/lotus/968cs/968_platelift.htm



Brilliant. Thanks, matey. Appreciate this.
 
  
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Mondrian
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RH964 wrote:
Thanks Mondrian.

All seems a bit of a minefield to me at the moment Smile

I’ll ask my local PCGB if any members have used Precision Porsche.


Not as local to you but a few of my friends have gone with these guys.

http://www.sportwagen.co.uk/
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your pads slide in and out ok then all’s well.
Plate lift will close the gap and make the pads jam on the plates and very difficult to slide in or out.
If you have plate lift the hardest part is removing the retaining screws, once they’re out remove plates, sand back corrosion and sand plates and fit with new screws.
As far as upgrading brakes is concerned, big reds are nice to have but to be honest complete overkill unless you’re planning serious track time.
993 calipers are a bit bigger for the front which is a good upgrade, if your car is a C2 then the 4 piston C4 rears is a worth while upgrade (also fitted to the 944 and 928 S4) these rear calipers provide slightly less clamping force than the smaller C2 calipers but have much larger pads (same pads as the 964 fronts) which makes them much more fade resistant.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RH964 wrote:
Just thinking aloud, has anyone here used Precision Porsche for bodywork?

If so, any good?


Did a great job on my 993 rear screen surround.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gunner wrote:
RH964 wrote:
Just thinking aloud, has anyone here used Precision Porsche for bodywork?

If so, any good?


Did a great job on my 993 rear screen surround.


Thanks, Gunner.

Car is in at Mid Sussex Porsche today for an MOT (though they outsource that so waste of time really). While in I asked them who they'd recommend. The nice chap in the service centre said Impact, they're part of Precision Porsche. He also mentioned SL Restorations in Crawley.

I had a quick look on their site and all looks good. I'll pop in and see them at some point.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, G pipe going on nest weekend.

Thanks again, chrisbchips. A true gentleman!

Richard
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might also want to consider tlock to give yourself remote central locking. You can get it here https://www.bergvillfx.com/index.php/products/t-lock-keyless-entry.html . I fitted mine couple of weeks ago and it is very nice to have remote central locking. Rennlist have few threads on how to fit with photos which give bit more detail than Tores instructions
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Stephenjk - apologies for the delay, completely missed your post. It sure I got the email alert. Hmmm.
Thankfully the car already has remote central locking via the alarm.

G pipe fitted at the weekend. Sounds great! Such an improvement over the factory sound. Have been using the car for the station run all week - partly due to wanting to drive the thing and partly so I can hear the exhaust in the station multi story car park.


Hugely impressed with the Bilstein PSS10s too. I fitted the G pipe at a friend’s house down by Goodwood. A good excuse for a blast. At Billingshurst on the A272 there’s a humpback bridge. I knew it was there so slowed to about 85, totally forgetting just how humpy it is. The suspension fully stretched, maybe a little air, then settled immediately upon landing. Good thing as there’s a right hand bend right after the bridge that I wouldn’t have made if the car pogo’d.

All good fun.

Started thinking about antiroll bars and bushes. What’s the general consensus here for a road based car? It should see a few track days, but predominantly a fast road car.

Thanks in advance for all/any advice.

Richard
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

H&R do a good set up. Front and rear with bushes for about £400 ish.
Factory RS ones are so rare now, aftermarket is the only realistic option.
I think Design 911 sell them and I know there are discount codes on the front page of their site at the mo Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chief wrote:
H&R do a good set up. Front and rear with bushes for about £400 ish.
Factory RS ones are so rare now, aftermarket is the only realistic option.
I think Design 911 sell them and I know there are discount codes on the front page of their site at the mo Thumb


Very late reply... Thank you, Chief.

Do any of the more knowledge folks on here know whether ARBs, worn bushes, or general set up would affect higher speed feel? The car feels great until 70ish, then any cornering above this the front goes vague and slightly unnerving.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyre pressures will dramatically effect high speed feel. Not sure what size rim you are running but you can drop them ALOT and it will make a huge difference. I’m running 17inch rims and have 32psi in the font. 38 rear.
Give it a try. It’s a cheap way of ruling out ARB’s.
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