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911DG
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 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:46 pm Post subject: HELP! Warning light Take To Workshop
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Evening guys
Dreaded Engine “Warning light Take To Workshop” came on about 10 Miles ago.
Sounds a bit rough - but no other warning lights on!
Oil indicator is low and I called my Indy about 5 days ago to tell them that but they only put a load (3 liters) in it 3 weeks ago and said they would have seen if it had a leak ?? But if I check the indicator it’s flashing low and I’ve done a 70mile round trip in it today!!!
Feels a bit ‘juttery’ / nasty too - not smooth as usual.
Any ideas ????? Panic stations here 😱😱😱
Cheers
Dan
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Phil 997
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:28 pm Post subject:
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My first thought was coil pack based on what you describe, but without seeing or hearing it cant be totally sure  hope its something simple to sort though low oil level indicator might not be connected
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Mezgerite
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:55 pm Post subject:
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No point in guessing issue. It needs code reading to see what has triggered the light. It won't be anything to do with the oil level.
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alex yates
Brands Hatch
Joined: 06 Mar 2014
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Location: The Ribble Valley, Lancashire
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:57 pm Post subject:
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Sounds like you're going through a rake of oil! Is there not black smoke bellowing out your tailpipes.....or giant puddles of it on your drive?
Sounds quite sinister to me if you're using so much and the engines not running well. 
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Robertb
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:09 pm Post subject:
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First thing I'd check is the oil via dipstick to see if the indicator is lying. Leave it a good ten minutes after its warmed up.
Other possibilities... air oil separator, though not sure if the 997s have the same thing as 996s. That will use a load of oil and make it run weirdly, did with mine anyway.
Probably best to take to workshop like it says, have it properly diagnosed as it could be any number of things.
Fingers crossed...
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deMort
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:12 pm Post subject:
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They put 3 ltrs in it but didnt find a leak ?
Thats a lot and more than the low oil message you would have got so i assume you had warning messages at that point ?
Any chance of a video ?
Does it smoke ?
Best guess .. AOS .. oil in the cylinders and a misfire due to fouled plugs .
Thats the nicest fault anyways .
I think get it into your Indy without driving too much is the best option .. like Alex .. im not happy with what you have described .
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911DG
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:29 pm Post subject:
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Ok thanks lads - some really good points !
There is no smoke and no oil stains on the floor so it’s strange ??? Did a 200 mike trip at the weekend and it went like a dream.
No dipstick in a 997 - kinda annoying I think !!!
She’s going in first thing - Indy is only 4 miles away so hopefully OK !
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911DG
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:35 pm Post subject:
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I’ve got a Vid but how do I post under the size limited ?
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deMort
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:57 pm Post subject:
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Send it to me at ..
De.Mort@virginmedia.com
I wont be able to do anything with it till tomorrow night though as i have to log now .. sorry .. im hungry !
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911DG
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:10 pm Post subject:
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So.... just got the diagnosis and estimate....
Faulty hydroloc valve tappet apparently causing misfire !!!! Recommending replacing all 6 while they are there. Total cost with all parts and labour and VAT....
£1600!!!
Fkkk me. Not what I was expecting!
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T8
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:15 pm Post subject:
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Ouch, but that seems like a decent price for such a job.
I'm still curious as to why the car needed 3 litres of oil a few weeks ago.
Had it leaked somewhere or had you just let it run that low. 
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alex yates
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:22 pm Post subject:
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The low oil was potentially the cause of the fault. Like I said in the oil thread, it concerns me more how cars are used and maintained rather than what viscosity fully synthetic oil is used. 
3 litres down is running on only 65% of specification!
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Robertb
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:59 pm Post subject:
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| 911DG wrote: | So.... just got the diagnosis and estimate....
Faulty hydroloc valve tappet apparently causing misfire !!!! Recommending replacing all 6 while they are there. Total cost with all parts and labour and VAT....
£1600!!!
Fkkk me. Not what I was expecting! |
Sounds fair enough £ for that job... I was charged similar for the AOS, which cost ***** all but needed the engine out to get at.
But yes, get them to give the car a thorough check over to see what's happened to the 3L of oil.
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911DG
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:39 pm Post subject:
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Howdie all
Just wanted to say thanks for all the input and advice. I was skeptical due to the size of the estimate but you guys put me at ease ! They are doing it now so should be back by Wed and will look in to the oil but they are convinced no leak !
Biggest single bill I’ve had pretty much in 15 years of owning 4 x 911s so I guess I’m lucky!
Have a great weekend all.
Dan
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jonno_
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:23 pm Post subject:
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Good news, still concerned that 3l is a big amount to top-up on one go!
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deMort
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:48 pm Post subject:
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Im still 
I want to know were the oil went .
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Stever845
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:40 pm Post subject:
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Me too
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alex yates
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:43 pm Post subject:
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And me.
Proper secret squirrel stuff. I reckon it was the butler.
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HSC911
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:51 pm Post subject:
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| alex yates wrote: | | I reckon it was the butler. |
He's too busy organising MOT's
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deMort
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:56 pm Post subject:
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| alex yates wrote: | And me.
Proper secret squirrel stuff. I reckon it was the butler .....
With the Spanner in the Garage ! |
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