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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:35 am    Post subject: 993 coupe to 964 targa... Reply with quote

I do this every few months. My eye gets caught by something and I deliberate over whether to move on the 993 in favour of something different.

996 turbo, 987 spyder, R8, RS4 have all been considered over the last couple of years.

This week it's a 964 targa. I know it's a step backwards in terms of 911 evolution but I really like the look of that targa hoop and the thought of some semi-open air motoring this summer.

Tell me I'm wrong...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your opening a can of worms here!

But..

In my opinion your not wrong Very Happy - Do it!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Illuminati won't like this chum. They'll be heating the tar and plucking the ducks as I type Hand
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was written off by the illuminati years ago - aventura tip with non-original wheels, splitter, badge and a blaupunkt?! Subversive heretic...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any wide body 964 is gorgeous ... probably the prettiest 911 ever.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend has an SC targa with a brushed alu finish on the hoop (apparently a factory option, didn't know that)... that looks sensational, and would too on a 964.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robertb wrote:
A friend has an SC targa with a brushed alu finish on the hoop (apparently a factory option, didn't know that)... that looks sensational, and would too on a 964.


I was reading a post about taking the 964 hoop back to metal earlier today. Love the look but sounds like a bit of a pain.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great car to change to Thumb

..been considering an air cooled after deciding not to change to another 991. Great fun without license loosing speeds....
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A step backwards? I wouldn't think of it like that. Each is an experience, each a period piece. (It's like going back to Bach having after listening intensively to Beethoven! Instrumental forces, harmonic language, etc. may have been less 'evolved', but you couldn't argue that the earlier music was inferior.) In my view, the more varied experiences you can have (of any form of human culture, including automotive), the better. That all sounds a bit pseudo, I know...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G2 wrote:
Great car to change to Thumb

..been considering an air cooled after deciding not to change to another 991. Great fun without license loosing speeds....


G2 - I went from a 997.1 to my 993 and it is definitely the right thing to do. I have so much fun driving around in it. The air cooled cars definitely have so much character and spirit about them. A friend of mine did a similar thing going from a 997.2 to a 3.2. Both are daily drivers!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pierrebear wrote:
G2 wrote:
Great car to change to Thumb

..been considering an air cooled after deciding not to change to another 991. Great fun without license loosing speeds....


G2 - I went from a 997.1 to my 993 and it is definitely the right thing to do. I have so much fun driving around in it. The air cooled cars definitely have so much character and spirit about them. A friend of mine did a similar thing going from a 997.2 to a 3.2. Both are daily drivers!


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Just sold my gen1 manual 997 turbo and replacing with a 964, you just can't drive turbos, R8's etc etc on the rounds in this country without losing your license, 964's are just beautiful, I'm biased but go for it👍
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about a forwards backwards step?
http://www.stirlings.co.uk/Cars/For-Sale/2014-Porsche-911-991-Targa-4S-PDK/3
Stunning retro looks along with the modernity of the new cars. I know it's left field but who doesn't like to look at another gorgeous 911.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FZP wrote:
What about a forwards backwards step?
http://www.stirlings.co.uk/Cars/For-Sale/2014-Porsche-911-991-Targa-4S-PDK/3
Stunning retro looks along with the modernity of the new cars. I know it's left field but who doesn't like to look at another gorgeous 911.


That is a beautiful car apart from the beige interior! I could be tempted away from a 964 for one of those.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP

Keep a check on our website - I have a low mileage 964 Targa guard red manual coming in next week - only seen photos so far but just in case It is of interest to you.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fatboy74 wrote:
pierrebear wrote:
G2 wrote:
Great car to change to Thumb

..been considering an air cooled after deciding not to change to another 991. Great fun without license loosing speeds....


G2 - I went from a 997.1 to my 993 and it is definitely the right thing to do. I have so much fun driving around in it. The air cooled cars definitely have so much character and spirit about them. A friend of mine did a similar thing going from a 997.2 to a 3.2. Both are daily drivers!


+1
Just sold my gen1 manual 997 turbo and replacing with a 964, you just can't drive turbos, R8's etc etc on the rounds in this country without losing your license, 964's are just beautiful, I'm biased but go for it👍


Great to hear you are enjoying them boys Thumb any pictures to help gunner make his decision ?

I remember test driving a zenith 993 c2s back to back with a zenith 996 c2tip in 2000 and going for the 996 PC Get Me Coat frustrated
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some pics as requested...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 964 targa is great fun albeit that you only get to experience the roof-off experience in all of its glory for approximately two weeks a year in the UK.
The roof doesn’t appreciate being folded up and put under the bonnet too much as it impacts on wear and fitting issues.
After 5 years using one as daily driver I either keep the roof on or if it looks like a prolonged period of sunshine the roof stays in the garage.
This is the first year I have taken the car off the road for the winter so looking forward to the summer.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gunner, my post from a couple of years ago also describes stripping back the targa hoop to achieve brush metal finish. Might be of interest.
http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=112520&highlight=spring+refresh
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Though I fear the wrath of the Illuminati and being found with a cable tow around my neck past the low water mark
A 993 is such a better car than a 964
Better engine, suspension , looks, the mistakes from the 964 made the 993 the finest air cooled car
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gunner
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chrisbchips wrote:
Gunner, my post from a couple of years ago also describes stripping back the targa hoop to achieve brush metal finish. Might be of interest.
http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=112520&highlight=spring+refresh


Chris, I think this is one of the posts that has left me in this position, love the look of your targa.

Ken, will keep an our out. How about a supercharged 964 targa...?

As for the 991 targa, I can see why Porsche have gone back to this look. Bit too big and expensive for me though.
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