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Phil 997
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2009 Porsche 997 Carrera 4S

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:10 am    Post subject: Bu@@er my gen2 C4S is broken, update now healed itself lol Reply with quote

My car is dead, deceased , this car is no more, its an ex car, this car has toddled of its mortal coil. lol

I fitted semi semi solid engine mounts and during the initial drive to test them the clutch started to slip ,so I had that changed using an OE clutch while the car was being returned 40 miles the tech noted that he felt slight vibration and a slightly sticky pedal feel , we assumed the vibration was the new engine mounts and the sticky pedal a bit of air in the system , So we then fitted the kit to removed any air in the system , happy the clutch felt good we went for a test drive 4 miles, all seemed fine apart from the slight vibration my comment to the tech was that the semi solids were coming back off the car but that was all. at about 3.5 miles into the test drive there was a sudden vibration through the clutch pedal and across the car like it was spluttering . followed by a nasty tapping noise so we limped the last bit back and then stopped the car . We both looked at each other and said dam thats the duel mass flywheel clearly couldnt take the pressure from the new clutch although on inspection of the DMF during the clutch change it had seemed ok.
Anyway it went off today on a low loader to have a new DMF fitted . once up one the ramp it seems its not coming from the gearbox , but seems close to the engine louder on the right . So the car was borescoped and all seemed ok the oil filter removed and stripped and inspected this all seems normal. so some head scratching and enlisting the help of Baz and Grant at Hartech in the morning for advise
It was a sudden issue and its a 997gen2 4S with 58k on the clock driven daily running millers 10w50 and always warmed up.

Currently busy applying man maths to the situation. So I am now expecting an engine rebuild anything less than that will be a bonus Thumb Thumb
fortunately I am only into 1st year of ownership of this 911 and as I kept the last one for 4.5 years it means a min of 3.5 more years with this car so divide the cost of an engine rebuild over that period and its still cheaper than the depreciation of almost any other car ,

Personally I think some of your wives have got together using the womans logic of , If we make Phil skint doing a rebuild he won't have any money to mod his car and then tell our husbands about it ,making them want it and spend the families holiday pot. So I will be checking the fuel for sand and the exhaust for any asst fruit insertion. Grin Grin Grin

If its off the road for a while Dinslaken is not going to be a problem as after threatening to follow in a van with some tyres on the top like a group support vehicle with the driver and passanger wearing lederhosen a member has already offered me the use of his blue baron thank you Nick worship
Just goes to show what a great group of people and great community this forum has .

PS I would just like to remind all you third pedal is right gen1s have chocolate engines gen2s are great jockeys . In four and a half years of gen1 tip ownership nothing like this ever happened lol
bring back the gen1 tip all is forgiven Floor Floor Floor

will keep you all posted as we progress through finding what the issue is Thumb Thumb
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kurlykris
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh bu@@er........... nooo

It seems like the newer Gen 2 engines are not the be all and end all of Porsche ownership problems Phil nooo

Let`s hope that it is something not catastrophic requiring a full rebuild.

My sympathies to your bank manager............
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Phil 997
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2009 Porsche 997 Carrera 4S

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kurlykris wrote:
Oh bu@@er........... nooo

It seems like the newer Gen 2 engines are not the be all and end all of Porsche ownership problems Phil nooo

Let`s hope that it is something not catastrophic requiring a full rebuild.

My sympathies to your bank manager............


Floor Floor Thanks Kris Grin Thumb I told my two girls that they would be on bread and water until they were 18 seems thats ok as long as the bread has a burger between it and the water has pepsi syrup in it Floor
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
Floor Floor Thanks Kris Grin Thumb I told my two girls that they would be on bread and water until they were 18 seems thats ok as long as the bread has a burger between it and the water has pepsi syrup in it Floor


I`ve just told my gaggle the same Grin

After Oulton Park on Friday in the Boxster, I need to up my game and get the 996.1 up to scratch with a Hartech 3.7 rebuild to keep up with the big boys Grin

First world problems and all that nooo

I assume you have a warranty Question
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Phil 997
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2009 Porsche 997 Carrera 4S

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kurlykris wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
Floor Floor Thanks Kris Grin Thumb I told my two girls that they would be on bread and water until they were 18 seems thats ok as long as the bread has a burger between it and the water has pepsi syrup in it Floor


I`ve just told my gaggle the same Grin

After Oulton Park on Friday in the Boxster, I need to up my game and get the 996.1 up to scratch with a Hartech 3.7 rebuild to keep up with the big boys Grin

First world problems and all that nooo

I assume you have a warranty Question


No Warranty mate , the only stock OE part on the car are the mirrors Grin I think it would fail 108 points of the 111 point check Floor no this is going to cost hard cash to sort Thumb now wheres my old sorn off and balaclava gone lol

liking the sound of the 3.7 rebuild on yours Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
No Warranty mate , the only stock OE part on the car are the mirrors Grin I think it would fail 108 points of the 111 point check Floor no this is going to cost hard cash to sort Thumb

liking the sound of the 3.7 rebuild on yours Thumb


It`s only about £12K mate....................more than I paid for the car Sad ..............was thinking about trading it in for 997.2 Sad only joking as I love my 2 babies Cloud 9

I`m upping my hourly rate from the end of the month to pay for it Grin
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surprised

Hope all is not as bad as it first seems.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best of luck Phil, here's hoping it's nothing too serious/expensive.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh Mate! Gutted for you. Keep us posted, be interested to hear what the issue is. Fingers crossed its the £2.99 left hand giggle pin.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil I am gutted for you and hope that the fix needed is not as bad as you think, but it's good you remain philosophical about it and like you said the cost is only the depreciation on any other car. Using man maths as you had the gen1 for 4.5 years and plan to keep the gen2 this long then what ever the out come that's still a reasonable price for owning such nice cars over that amount of time.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh pooo.......not good news. Personally I'm hedging my bets on something trivial. Fingers crossed for you mate.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do hope it is something simple/cheap to fix.Could it be related to the work that you have had done?
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil.. sorry to hear of this mate, never thought the gen2 would give this kind of trouble as thought Porsche would have ironed out the problems regards to gen1 days etc.. any thoughts what you reckon it could be?? It may have had a hard life before you took ownership ?? Who knows, hopefully it won't need a rebuild as it could be something silly!!! Good luck mate!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil
Sorry to hear that is terrible news. As others have said, let's hope that it's not as serious at what you .right be thinking. Having Baz on the case would be providing me with comfort if I were in your shoes.
Best of luck mate, I'm sure I can speak on behalf of all of 911uk members and say that we are behind you Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a loose engine mount or something. Bet they've not put something back right after doing the job.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not good to read pal. Hope it's a simple fix and nothing major.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
Sounds like a loose engine mount or something. Bet they've not put something back right after doing the job.


I agree, hopefully it’s a quick fix.

Could the engine alignment affect the clutch/drive??
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a good thing to hear.

Hope all get back to normal asap fella. Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GOODLUCK Phil,,,,hope you get it sorted without too much pain or cost.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surprised Surprised Surprised Gutted to hear this Phil, I hope its something minor after all so the money youve set aside for it in your head with Man maths can be used for more mods...
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