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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:53 pm    Post subject: New car, poor tyres? Reply with quote

After a bit of a weather delay I finally took delivery of a gen2 997 c2s cab. Its a Porsche Approved car from an OPC. I’m very happy with it except the front tyres. At first inspection they have a lot of tread remaining, but I now realise that they are quite worn on the inside. But the biggest issue it that there is visible cracking within the tread. I also note they are date stamped 2613 so are nearly 5 years old. Given the mileage history of the car these tyres have been put on much more recent than 2013. I attach a pic of the cracks. I would appreciate peoples views whether this is OK?
 



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:06 pm    Post subject: Re: New car, poor tyres? Reply with quote

qwerty911 wrote:
After a bit of a weather delay I finally took delivery of a gen2 997 c2s cab. Its a Porsche Approved car from an OPC. I’m very happy with it except the front tyres. At first inspection they have a lot of tread remaining, but I now realise that they are quite worn on the inside. But the biggest issue it that there is visible cracking within the tread. I also note they are date stamped 2613 so are nearly 5 years old. Given the mileage history of the car these tyres have been put on much more recent than 2013. I attach a pic of the cracks. I would appreciate peoples views whether this is OK?

The general rule of thumb is 6 years and then bin. Given that they're worn on the inside and almost aged out and cescking, I'd be getting a new set on the front. Also keep in mind that these cars are particularly sensitive to tyre pressure so make sure you keep on top of them
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I might be making a call to the salesman that sold me the car.

I had a similar issue when I picked up my car from an OPC. One rear tyre was new, the other was half worn and nearly down to the wear blocks. The salesman told me it met their standards, I considered it to be poor practice on a `nearly` 200 mph missile costing just south of 70k.
They agreed to put a new tyre on so I now have a matching pair.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’d be asking the OPC to change them, hard at this stage but worth a shot.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they're below 3mm they shouldn't have passed the 111 point inspection for the OPC to be able to put a warranty on it.

I'd definitely be after a contribution to a new front pair.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they agree to fit new tyres, be careful what they offer to fit as they will want to keep the costs down, and fit cheapies. If you are particular about what you want fitted, tell them and if you have to, pay the difference. They shouldn't have handed over a car with tyres in that condition IMO.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely change the tyres, regardless of who pays. I had a similar experience when I bought my (then 5 yr old) car a few years ago. The rears were new and the fronts were feathered on both outside edges.
It had a brand new MOT so they were legal and a check with a tyre company confirmed it but their recommendation was to change them.
As previously mentioned, if you are intending to use the car at speed then they should be of good quality, and at five years old with signs of wear or perishing then better to be safe. Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T8 wrote:
If they're below 3mm they shouldn't have passed the 111 point inspection for the OPC to be able to put a warranty on it.

I'd definitely be after a contribution to a new front pair.


This. You've paid a premium for OPC peace of mind, they need to fulfil their side of the bargain and not cut corners.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shurv wrote:
If they agree to fit new tyres, be careful what they offer to fit as they will want to keep the costs down, and fit cheapies. If you are particular about what you want fitted, tell them and if you have to, pay the difference. They shouldn't have handed over a car with tyres in that condition IMO.


No OPC will ever fit cheapies. Ever.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just had the same issue with my car bought a couple of weeks ago.

Check these out!!!

Contacted the dealer and we're getting them changed. No idea how old they are but they have 6mm and the car has done 30,000...??
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last time my 997 was at the OPC in 2016 my front's were similar to those in querty911's picture. The service department were very quick to point them out & advise replacements at some extortionate price. Yet when it comes to flogging a car & saving money they are happy to turn a blind eye it would appear. I took their advice but they didn't take my money.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would contact the OPC , they have a duty of care which is why you pay the premium for the car, I would be expecting them to change those the cracks are imaterial they are 2013 tyres Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:11 pm    Post subject: Tyre makes. Reply with quote

Would qwerty911 and b9boy care to care to disclose the make of tyres, please?

Still haven't changed mine but would like to stay clear of a make that might be problematic - or is it just the age of the tyres that's the issue here?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pirelli P Zeros, but I very much doubt that this is a tyre brand issue.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:07 pm    Post subject: P Zeros Reply with quote

I'm on P Zeros at he moment and am experiencing some issues but they, like me, are getting on a bit that's why I'm looking to change.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Tyre makes. Reply with quote

Les Richards wrote:
Would qwerty911 and b9boy care to care to disclose the make of tyres, please?

Still haven't changed mine but would like to stay clear of a make that might be problematic - or is it just the age of the tyres that's the issue here?

Thanks.


Mine are P Zeros.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just been out to check and my fronts are week 7 2014 and the tears week 13 2013...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

b9boy wrote:
Just been out to check and my fronts are week 7 2014 and the tears week 13 2013...


I would be expecting something to start to deterioate on 5 yr old tyres but the OP should have recause as hes only just got the car and from an OPC Thumb

whether the cracks are detromental to the tyres performance is not something I know they may well be fine for everyday use. Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My P-Zero front tyres are coming up to their 4th birthday. Have exactly the same cracks on the outer edges.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robertb wrote:
T8 wrote:
If they're below 3mm they shouldn't have passed the 111 point inspection for the OPC to be able to put a warranty on it.

I'd definitely be after a contribution to a new front pair.


This. You've paid a premium for OPC peace of mind, they need to fulfil their side of the bargain and not cut corners.


Nail hit firmly on head. Maybe the OPC were rubbing their hands in anticipation of charging an extortionate amount for replacements at next service.
 
  
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