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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:31 pm    Post subject: It all worked out in the end! Reply with quote

On the way to get married on Saturday, I took my 993 even though it would normally be still tucked up in bed and while not paying attention ended up spinning on some grit (I think I was a little excited about something else) and hitting a post on the front near side inline with the headlight. Its a little nasty and the airbags did go off.

I have been advised to find a repairer of my choice but I have no idea.

Despite this wedding hiccup I still had a great day.

I am in Fence near Burnley in Lancashire.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Road & Race Manchester

Approved Porsche repair company
Bolton Porsche Centre use them obviously-top dealer

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations and commiserations. R&R do top class work they sprayed the Bolton OPC's rebuild projects which have been in their showroom.
Ninemeister did mine a while ago sprayed by Neil (who is now elsewhere but I have his number, he tracks a GT3RS) and Karl at Bretherton does a great job ( no number but he did a beautiful full respay of my mates 993.)
Not been to the Calf's Head for ages but going to RS trackday at Oulton this Friday.
If there is structural damage I would use R&R or 9m. Neither will be cheap.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Road and Race.......no substitute.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the words immortalised by Christophe Lambert in the film Highlander:

"There can be only one!"

Road and Race, Manchester.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OPC Wilmslow hand out Road and Race cards for body work jobs
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that's answered that one for you mate.

Ps. Congrats to you and Mrs Nelson! Congrats
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im not in your area so i cant answer but i just wanted to say congratulations Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys, called road and race and talked to the MD who by chance was celebrating his Birthday at the Fence Gate pub round the corner from me later yesterday evening. Really great guy and knows his classic Porsches and let me inspect the work as it progresses. I have given him the insurance company details and he will sort recovering the car to get it out the rain this week.

I went through the damage in detail and he said its all fixable which is great. As I said on the day its only metal and no one was hurt, these 993's are solid lumps of metal.

The wife has brought me some driving lessons for a wedding present Floor
and is also having the car limited to 30bhp the same as her beetle. Dont know
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately I have been told the car is right on the boarder line between repair and total loss. Prices seem to have increased a lot and my agreed value is OK but a little low.

Is there anything I can do to help persuade the insurance company to payout more than the agreed value if that's the way things go. Or is it time to forget and move on. Lesson learned.

They are apparently making their decision this week.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A sickener for you. nooo

If it's that near the borderline the damage must be quite significant. Would you really want it back. Question

I'd push for as good a payout as possible.

Put spec/mileage details and pics on here and the illuminati should be able to advise what monies you should be pushing for.

Good luck.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely a sickener.

Road and race were happy to repair but insurance stated the parts value is very high hence in their interests better to pay out.

Specification is as follows:

1996 993 3.6 VR C2
Black schwartz Met
Grey leather
73K ish miles
Near perfect condition

Hard back sport seats
Working AC
Full Porsche RS body kit including original 3 piece split rims
RS engine mounts, flywheel and short shift
Rear Roll cage
Full Dansk exhaust system
Big Reds for the brakes
Becker radio
996 steering wheel
New H&R suspension
Wiper widget Floor

I think that's the main stuff.

I can't find another one anything like similar anywhere at the moment. So whats it worth before the bump!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I'd be telling the insurance to not bother with the claim and progress having it fixed myself (out my own pocket). Last thing you want is them writing it off just because the quotes are beyond their limit. Bet you could have it fixed and back to mint condition for under a couple of grand.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
Personally, I'd be telling the insurance to not bother with the claim and progress having it fixed myself (out my own pocket). Last thing you want is them writing it off just because the quotes are beyond their limit. Bet you could have it fixed and back to mint condition for under a couple of grand.

Extrapolation of Alex's point above, can you not say go the insurance company, pay me up to the write off figure, and I'll pay for the rest myself? That way you get your car back without any black marks against it and most likely get it done to your standard as you are effectively paying for it as a private customer.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ps. I'd say you're around the £60k mark on value.

Wipes the floor with this £55k'er: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201803134517659
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FZP wrote:
alex yates wrote:
Personally, I'd be telling the insurance to not bother with the claim and progress having it fixed myself (out my own pocket). Last thing you want is them writing it off just because the quotes are beyond their limit. Bet you could have it fixed and back to mint condition for under a couple of grand.

Extrapolation of Alex's point above, can you not say go the insurance company, pay me up to the write off figure, and I'll pay for the rest myself? That way you get your car back without any black marks against it and most likely get it done to your standard as you are effectively paying for it as a private customer.


Surely they'd categorise the car as a write-off against their payout?? Dont know
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
FZP wrote:
alex yates wrote:
Personally, I'd be telling the insurance to not bother with the claim and progress having it fixed myself (out my own pocket). Last thing you want is them writing it off just because the quotes are beyond their limit. Bet you could have it fixed and back to mint condition for under a couple of grand.

Extrapolation of Alex's point above, can you not say go the insurance company, pay me up to the write off figure, and I'll pay for the rest myself? That way you get your car back without any black marks against it and most likely get it done to your standard as you are effectively paying for it as a private customer.


Surely they'd categorise the car as a write-off against their payout?? Dont know

Just under the amount. They win because they're only paying out 25k vs 50k to write it off
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really sorry to read this.

Have Road & Race given you a parts list for the repair. I can imagine the new OEM parts are ridiculously expensive, hence the insurance company deliberating over writing the car off or repairing.
There's a decent supply of used parts available if you look closely and with a little time haggling, you can also pick up some new kit with big discounts.

Re your agreed valuation, i've never understood this with classic/sports cars as the market is up and down constantly, particularly over the 12 months of your insurance policy. Go with market value and you have a better chance of recovering a good price by finding a similar car available at the time.

Fingers crossed you get a good result.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar prang 6 months into ownership, car pulled out infront of me "Sorry mate didn't see you" infront of 3 witnesses. Total bill inc hire car £35,000 by the then Porsche approved repair center. Bit different 'cos his insurance paid after a silly tribunal but it was 2002. Insurance repairs are and always have been a joke.
e.g. Supermarket trolly rash on her Mito, quoted £2500, fixed perfectly for £350.
Be careful with this you don't want a Cat D on it.
If you can't get anywhere with insurance company pm me I can put you in touch with a very good place not too far away. (Preston-ish)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will explore these possibilities.

It’s definitely a Insurance valuation on the repairs. Quote is £30k from R and R. I will talk to them on the parts list.

Damage has not affected the front chassis legs but everything and the AC etc under the wing as gone and the A pillar is pushed back slightly but the door still opens and closes. I have had the car in bits myself and know what’s involved to get it right again. I was expecting around £20k with Max £25k to repair.

I would be happy for used parts to be used and even happy to some extent as it shouldn’t look too new. Age is character.

Current offer is 55k but whilst a year ago that could of got you something there is nothing decent for that now!

Thanks for all the help people! Alex knows the condition of the car as he’s seen her.

Who said getting married was a good idea! Floor
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