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2006 Porsche 997 Turbo

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:34 pm    Post subject: Best tuners for 997.1 turbo Reply with quote

Hi Gents

I thought I would put it out there. Looking at a stage 2 tune.
kline exhaust 100 cell cats. Done
Gt2 RS intercoolers Done
BMC filter. Done
upgraded clutch Done

Tune Next on the list

Who tuned your 997 turbos ??
Anyone had any issues ??
Were you pleased with the results ??
Where there claims true??
Please let me know your thoughts.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can recommend Rick at Unicorn motor developments. He is an absolute genius and able to do a lot of trick stuff other tuners can not offer such as flat shifting, launch control and multiple maps. Multiple maps is superb as it allows you to select maps with different boost levels. Or the ability to have a separate map for MS109 fuel etc. As for power claims the man is a scientist so he only deals with accuracy his dyno is accurately calibrated and all is backed up by theoretical calculations. Rick owns a 997.1 turbo so no doubt has spent a lot of time perfecting they model.

You also will not go wrong with 9e. Ken and his team have been tuning these cars for many years.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ESMotor is another tuner to consider
They have claim to the fastest 997 turbos out there - they produce a proven performance product that is developed through competition and that very DNA filters through to the road products.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a chat with Nine Excellence who have put years of research into the tuning of these engines, with excellent, safe results. And they don't b/s, they seriously know these cars, they field several calls a day from cars that are in at other garages with problems! I think they have business relationships with the most respected US tuners, as well as being able to do in-house engine builds.

They have looked after my 996 since 2011, and I trust them implicitly. They tend to under promise, and over deliver Smile

PS they now also have coffee as good as the OPC.. and a new hire car.. and a 918 to look at while you wait for your car to be serviced! Call Ken or Adam and see what they can do, you've already got a fair bit done thumbsup
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jibaro wrote:
Have a chat with Nine Excellence who have put years of research into the tuning of these engines, with excellent, safe results. And they don't b/s, they seriously know these cars, they field several calls a day from cars that are in at other garages with problems! I think they have business relationships with the most respected US tuners, as well as being able to do in-house engine builds.

They have looked after my 996 since 2011, and I trust them implicitly. They tend to under promise, and over deliver Smile

PS they now also have coffee as good as the OPC.. and a new hire car.. and a 918 to look at while you wait for your car to be serviced! Call Ken or Adam and see what they can do, you've already got a fair bit done thumbsup


Agreed, 9e do excellent work and are a pleasure to deal with Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ESMotor hold pretty much every record globally and i'm one of their happy customers. I can't fault the level of service and support i've had and would recommend them all day.

That said if you choose one of the 3 named already in this thread you won't go far wrong, on the flip side i would think twice about choosing one thats not already been mentioned.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jibaro wrote:
Have a chat with Nine Excellence who have put years of research into the tuning of these engines, with excellent, safe results. And they don't b/s, they seriously know these cars, they field several calls a day from cars that are in at other garages with problems! I think they have business relationships with the most respected US tuners, as well as being able to do in-house engine builds.

They have looked after my 996 since 2011, and I trust them implicitly. They tend to under promise, and over deliver Smile

PS they now also have coffee as good as the OPC.. and a new hire car.. and a 918 to look at while you wait for your car to be serviced! Call Ken or Adam and see what they can do, you've already got a fair bit done thumbsup


^ This.

Nine Excellence took care of mine 18 months ago. I've been delighted with it ever since.
Ken will talk you through options and recommendations in a concise no b/s manner. thumbsup
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

911tom wrote:
I can recommend Rick at Unicorn motor developments. He is an absolute genius and able to do a lot of trick stuff other tuners can not offer such as flat shifting, launch control and multiple maps. Multiple maps is superb as it allows you to select maps with different boost levels. Or the ability to have a separate map for MS109 fuel etc. As for power claims the man is a scientist so he only deals with accuracy his dyno is accurately calibrated and all is backed up by theoretical calculations. Rick owns a 997.1 turbo so no doubt has spent a lot of time perfecting they model.

You also will not go wrong with 9e. Ken and his team have been tuning these cars for many years.


Another top vote for Rick @ Unicorn, as Tom has said he can offer a world of knowledge when it comes to custom tuning.

His dyno is very accurate unlike others and the tune can supported with
V-box data when required.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

K9ng wrote:


His dyno is very accurate unlike others and the tune can supported with
V-box data when required.


You should clarify that quote really as no other tuners have been mentioned here and both 9e & ESMotor also backup their figures with vbox data.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AdeD wrote:
K9ng wrote:


His dyno is very accurate unlike others and the tune can supported with
V-box data when required.


You should clarify that quote really as no other tuners have been mentioned here and both 9e & ESMotor also backup their figures with vbox data.


9e and ES do not use a dyno. They are purely reliant on Vbox data. This is no bad thing as it shows real world performance.

Rewind a couple of years back when my car (996 turbo) ran modified K24 turbos, GT2 rs coolers and a 5 bar FPR it made 530hp on Ricks Dyno after he tuned it. I was disappointed but when he went through the calculations and applied the physics he concluded that 530hp was more or less what was physically possible on my stock injectors (440cc from memory) running at 5 bar and the science was inline with the dyno. My car had previously made close to 600hp on another tuners (not one mentioned on this thread) dyno. However on Ricks tune the car felt faster on the road and when I ran it a couple of weeks later at terminal velocity it was faster than most the cars there and made the same top speed as cars running a supposed 600hp+...


Basically you will not go wrong with either Unicorn, 9e or ES. In any order....

Give all 3 a call, all are very approachable IMO
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

911tom wrote:


9e and ES do not use a dyno.

ESMotor do now, they offer you the option. They have 3 UK ES700 cars at present all of them have been put on the rolling road and are within 5 or 6 bhp of each other at around 807 / 812bhp at the fly.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did not know that Ade. How do ES name there kits? Is an ES700 approx. 700WHP?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was looking to remap my car I did quite a lot of research. Have a look at various forums especially the US ones as they tend to modify their cars a lot more. I narrowed it down to ES Motor and Markski tuning. These guys have very happy clients around the world and speaking from personal experience markski has amazing customer service. I am looking for my next upgrade, its a slippery slope. Aim is around the 600 hp mark then I promised myself I would stop
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some were using a Dynojet inertia Dyno which gives very American figures!
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AdeD wrote:
K9ng wrote:


His dyno is very accurate unlike others and the tune can supported with
V-box data when required.


You should clarify that quote really as no other tuners have been mentioned here and both 9e & ESMotor also backup their figures with vbox data.


I was merely giving my 1st hand experience, as Tom mentioned you can't go wrong with 9E or ES Motors. Emre and Ken have a wealth of knowledge.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Some were using a Dynojet inertia Dyno which gives very American figures!


Everything is bigger in America!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

911tom wrote:
I did not know that Ade. How do ES name there kits? Is an ES700 approx. 700WHP?


yes bud, and on the conservative side Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Best tuners for 997.1 turbo Reply with quote

tgdesign wrote:
Hi Gents

I thought I would put it out there. Looking at a stage 2 tune.
kline exhaust 100 cell cats. Done
Gt2 RS intercoolers Done
BMC filter. Done
upgraded clutch Done

Tune Next on the list

Who tuned your 997 turbos ??
Anyone had any issues ??
Were you pleased with the results ??
Where there claims true??
Please let me know your thoughts.

worship


Dont forget there is also http://parr-uk.co.uk/
and https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/
both competent tuners in their own right
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mezgerite wrote:
Some were using a Dynojet inertia Dyno which gives very American figures!



VERY Grin Thumb


They show more at the wheel on a bike than we see at the gearbox shaft on an engine dyno. When working in the States in the mid-late eighties I met the founders of the company, Dan, Mark and Mike Dobek, who told me that they kept upping the horsepower number until an average bike made the same as a manufacturer quoted at the crank. This was to stop bike owners' chins hitting the floor when showing real horsepower. Mark said that they calculated the radius of gyration of a Harley rear wheel, then used this and the mass to 'approximate' crank power. It calcs out at around 15-18% optimistic on a bike.

The car world use the same DJ scale as far as I'm aware, so ends up being a total cluster ****. We gave up with the DJ system when tuning super bikes and bought a Superflow 902, it's great.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DynoMike wrote:
Mezgerite wrote:
Some were using a Dynojet inertia Dyno which gives very American figures!



VERY Grin Thumb


They show more at the wheel on a bike than we see at the gearbox shaft on an engine dyno. When working in the States in the mid-late eighties I met the founders of the company, Dan, Mark and Mike Dobek, who told me that they kept upping the horsepower number until an average bike made the same as a manufacturer quoted at the crank. This was to stop bike owners' chins hitting the floor when showing real horsepower. Mark said that they calculated the radius of gyration of a Harley rear wheel, then used this and the mass to 'approximate' crank power. It calcs out at around 15-18% optimistic on a bike.

The car world use the same DJ scale as far as I'm aware, so ends up being a total cluster ****. We gave up with the DJ system when tuning super bikes and bought a Superflow 902, it's great.


Yes, It was the bike figures from the old American days of inflated OEM figures that did it. Also inertia was ok back when 200bhp was a lot, but for a 500bhp plus engine it like revving up in neutral - there is just not enough load for a meaningful figure.

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