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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in East London. Sorry, as I'm really new to this What is Indy?
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D15 wrote:
I'm in East London. Sorry, as I'm really new to this What is Indy?


Indy = Independent Porsche Specialist
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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D15 wrote:
I'm in East London. Sorry, as I'm really new to this What is Indy?


Indy = Independent Porsche Specialist


and OPC
Official Porsche Centre Thumb Thumb

OPC are restricted to what they can do and must use Porsche parts and Porsche accepted fixes

A good Indy will know the other fixes some cheaper, some better, some more efficient .They are not restrictd to what they can do or what they use , their specislist knowledge is invaluble and they will know work arounds and optimum fixes as there are many aftermarket parts specailly designed that are far better than the Porsche original equipment (OE)
Personally if it was my car it would be going to a highly reccomended Indy near you not to the OPC but its your car so do as you feel. if you want a good Indy near East London this is the place to get that info. Thumb Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, really sorry to hear this! What was the mileage when you bought it?

Robertb wrote:
Sounds to me like as he's a trader you would have a good case to press him for reimbursement under Consumer Rights Act...


Whilst it is worth a try, I dare say that with 96k now and approaching 13 years old, you may struggle but if he's a Porsche "specialist" of sorts and values his reputation and he may be willing to help, so it's worth a call in to him - do it asap though, because as soon as you have anyone else fiddle about with it, it gives him room to wriggle - he must be given the opportunity to remedy first! Indeed the burden of proof does lie with the dealer, but I fear the response will likely be that if it was doing that at the point of sale, you obviously wouldn't have bought the car.

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If it is scored bores, it would not have just happened in the last six months.

Presumably it didn't leave the factory like that, so it has to start sometime - why not in the last six months? It is a gradual process, so without the bore images, mileage and service data we cannot say when it would've started. Someone like Hartech would probably be able to make a fairly good estimate though once they've seen the state of the cylinders, so if no joy is had with the dealer then a report from Hartech would be good ammo to support a claim (assuming they say it's advanced / severe wear in excess of the time owned).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D15 wrote:
I'm in East London. Sorry, as I'm really new to this What is Indy?


East London Porsche in Beckton. Can take there.. ask to see one of the technicians there. They are quiet good!!!

Sorry to hear of your issue This very thing happen to me. I ended going for a full engine rebuild and haven't looked back..

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Age and mileage of your car I’d go through indy! OPC will cost more to diagnose and then will have ltd options.

This is a great forum, your in the right place! Keep us updated and good luck!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in East London too. Ilford area. I’ve used HP Motorsport specialists in Fairlop, for the last 3 years and have been great. I’d let them have a chance to diagnose for you. Prices are very reasonable there.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can recomend 9 Excellence .. ask for Matt to look at it .. dam good Tech and like me ex OPC .
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Picked up the 911 from OPC and an estimate of 36 hours labour plus a half block which they explained was more or less half the engine, they saiid it looks like a crankcase and piston problem. So for 36 hours labour about £6k and the half block £11600 so cost totalling about £18k but they did say this was an estimate and once stripped down they would have a better understanding of what exactly is wrong. So, called a few specialists and got a couple of estimated costs all range between £7k - £10k. Now to decide what to do . Always wanted a Porsche and got myself in to trouble. I've gave it in to a local specialist to camera check it. He will get back to me on Monday. will keep you updated.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dam.sounds like bore scoring but porsche won't tell you that.

Hartech are the 5 star rebuild specialists and would bullet proof it for what opc would charge for essentially the same cylinders that could score again.

Theres other options like porschetorque in west london.

Others will be along to help shortly mate.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OPC prices WOW as others have suggested I would heading towards Hartech, Ken at 9E, Autofarm and Sid at Porschetech all great reputations . OPC are just fitters of parts IMHO not mechanics as has been said by others Hartech offer many options to repair the parts that actually that are failing unlike OPC who's blanket response is fit a new engine
good luck you may find that these guys offer you some different options other than a complete new engine Dont know
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another recommendation for Hartech Thumb

Give them a ring as they will rebuild with betterments
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mzmini wrote:
OPC prices WOW as others have suggested I would heading towards Hartech, Ken at 9E, Autofarm and Sid at Porschetech all great reputations . OPC are just fitters of parts IMHO not mechanics as has been said by others Hartech offer many options to repair the parts that actually that are failing unlike OPC who's blanket response is fit a new engine
good luck you may find that these guys offer you some different options other than a complete new engine Dont know


Yes I agree. He could have just the 3 cylinders lined and new ims for around 8k isn't it ?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

damn OP sorry to hear. let us know the results from the borescope.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally got a result from my local Indy. Looks like one cylinder but once he opens it will find out. For one cylinder he's quoted £5.5k plus vat additional cylinders will obviously up the price but he said to a max. of £7.5k + vat. Also said to him while it's opened up to let me know if anything else needs doing. Might as well as it will only cost parts.
I had some silly offers of around £14k from dealers to buy as is but sure they'll drop me even further once they hear it. Anyway given the guy go ahead to repair. He's giving a 12 month 10K mileage warranty, 2 weeks for completion. I did look at options and wanted others up north to do the job but distance too far, didn't want to have to travel 4 hours north if there's a problem in the future. Now it's time to see if I can get the money together and hoping to get the car back noise free.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D15 - I echo all the others comments to get Hartech to do the repairs not your 'local indy'. There are lots of examples where owners have spent thousands at local indy's only to have the engine fail again. A 997 with a Hartech rebuild will hold its value and be much more re-sellable.

I am not in any way connected to Hartech but have been on this forum long enough to know that this is the right answer
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS1000 wrote:
D15 - I echo all the others comments to get Hartech to do the repairs not your 'local indy'. There are lots of examples where owners have spent thousands at local indy's only to have the engine fail again. A 997 with a Hartech rebuild will hold its value and be much more re-sellable.

I am not in any way connected to Hartech but have been on this forum long enough to know that this is the right answer
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...although it does depend who the local indy is. Anyone we might know?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 which indy Question
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess D15 has made up his mind to get the car repaired by his Indy then he's happy with. Also it's about price aswell I guess, if it suits his budget then that's a route to take maybe there's a budget of how much to spend!!.. but hope all goes well with it etc.

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