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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:27 am    Post subject: 996 C4S purchase Reply with quote

Does anyone know about these two C4S on eBay? Always liked the 996 C4S and tempted to bid but probably too risky to bid without a full PPI?

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https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F282819106673

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know them but if you assume they will need a chunk of work done to them then a cheeky bid may be in order.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s a nice colour, at least on the outside. I suppose they are reaching the age and mileage where it might need a fair bit of work.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contrary to what both adverts state the C4S is not a rare car. There are loads in the classifieds which should enable you to establish where the top bid should end up.

I wouldn't buy a 996 Carrera at any price without an independent PPI including a boreoscope.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a black manual C4S from the same seller recently.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F282769209961

He's honest in that he buys them from the auction house (most likely BCA), you turn up to pay your free to inspect test drive etc. Before agreeing to hand over the money. Mine does need some money spent on it, on the whole not too bad.

Good luck, by the way I prefer the grey interior, not s fan of beige. Let us know how it goes....
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Elan

what Terry said - whatever you buy get it inspected for bore-score; if its OK then as long as you have £3-5000 spare in your budget you should be fine. You are looking at cars that are 14+ years old so you'll need to spend a bit to make it 'just right'.

I bought mine for £22k 2 years ago and then spent nearly £5k over 2 years refreshing the whole suspension, new clutch etc. she now drives superb.

If you get it inspected and its fine then you can take 6-12 months getting it all sorted.

Lets of smiles in the miles in-between times m8. Thumb


Let us all know how you get on - and dont be afraid to ask questions here BEFORE you buy; no daft questions when you are spending money - just questions m8


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sterling Cars - Famous for shill bidding.

Wouldn't go anywhere near them unless I seriously knew what I was buying.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your advice guys. I was going to have a cheeky bid and get it checked as they do allow you to check before payment. I may give it a miss and look through the normal route. The Mrs is happy to use a C4S rather than the X5 which is huge and not ideal in London. So with man maths I though we could swap the X5 with C4S Laughing

Are the C4S more prone to engine issues?

Is it the photos or is it more biscuit colour rather than beige? I am not a fan of beige!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elan wrote:


Are the C4S more prone to engine issues?

Is it the photos or is it more biscuit colour rather than beige? I am not a fan of beige!



The C4S is no more or less prone to issues than a standard 3.6 C2 or C4 as they all have the same engine.

That interior looks sandy brown (can't recall the official name) rather than savannah beige and is even less desirable.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T8 wrote:
elan wrote:


Are the C4S more prone to engine issues?



The C4S is no more or less prone to issues than a standard 3.6 C2 or C4 as they all have the same engine.


But be aware that some of the general parts cost more as they are the same ones as the Turbo, e.g. condensers, radiators, brakes. So running costs will potentially be more than a standard 3.6 C2 or C4.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:

The C4S is no more or less prone to issues than a standard 3.6 C2 or C4 as they all have the same engine.


But be aware that some of the general parts cost more as they are the same ones as the Turbo, e.g. condensers, radiators, brakes. So running costs will potentially be more than a standard 3.6 C2 or C4.[/quote]

The thing that balances out all of that is that the C4S (especially the cab) has the best ares-end in the business.... Thumb Grin

Genuinely more smiles-per-mile from a C4S


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The interior colour is 'natural leather in brown'. It is darker than savannah beige or cinnamon brown (also an option at the time), which is a bit more reddish.

The natural leather was processed differently than standard and wears better apparently, with a nicer looking patina over time. It was an expensive extra when new and I've only seen it on one other car.

I think it looks good and suits the interior well. And another bonus is that you get less reflection on the windscreen on bright days, which can be an issue with savannah or sand (on the 997).
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone buy it? He's also got a nice looking silver C4S tip for sale too.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jackzi wrote:
The interior colour is 'natural leather in brown'. It is darker than savannah beige or cinnamon brown (also an option at the time), which is a bit more reddish.

The natural leather was processed differently than standard and wears better apparently, with a nicer looking patina over time. It was an expensive extra when new and I've only seen it on one other car.


... So it is a rare car then Question
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Appears to be back for sale.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F273051054860

I wonder how a C4S would be with a Hartech rebuilt 3.9l engine (mentioned on the other thread)? Question
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jackzi wrote:
The interior colour is 'natural leather in brown'. It is darker than savannah beige or cinnamon brown (also an option at the time), which is a bit more reddish.

The natural leather was processed differently than standard and wears better apparently, with a nicer looking patina over time. It was an expensive extra when new and I've only seen it on one other car.


... So it is a rare car then Question


That interior colour is and TFFT. Very Happy

NB: The ads don't refer to the colour being rare but do claim that both cars are. Perhaps it's because they googled 'tubro' bodied C4S and none came up. Dont know
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't really think it's a rare car (apart from the colour combo, but that's a matter of taste).

There were actually quite a few more C4S models sold than narrow body C4. So that's actually one of the rarest 'standard' 996s bar the targa.

The 'market' doesn't see it that way, it seems. And the looks go a long way with the C4S. Not that I really disagree, mind you Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

toddy2 wrote:
Anyone buy it? He's also got a nice looking silver C4S tip for sale too.


Yes, my brother did. Picked it up this morning. Two owner car, really well spec’d with Bose and cruise, full specialist history, recent brakes and newish N rated tyres.

Got durametric on it and it was clear, no obvious signs of borescore, no RMS leak and have driven it 100 miles down the motorway so far.

I’ve also got a C4S but manual, the one thing we are both not convinced with this one is tiptonic. We will see if he changes his mind!

I’ve also bought a car from the same seller in the past few months without issues. The other car was relisted as the seller didn’t contact them - we were given the second chance offer on it.

Guess it’s a brave way to buy a car but I don’t trust dealers warranties anyway so would rather have the cash to put it right.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still on the hunt, to replace my C4 with a C4S. Does anyone know this car?
I am hoping to view it this weekend.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-carrera-996/porsche-911-996-carrera-4s-perfect-spec-perfect-colour-full-history---------------2004/8064167


And this an amazing colour, but shame its an auto with grey interior.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-carrera-996/porsche-911-996-carrera-4s-tiptronic-s----------2002/8409558
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