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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats great Phil, you can be guinea pig then.

The only other option I've not seen mentioned in the 997 section is the 993 RS mounts which are a more solid design than standard and can be got for a reasonable amount via D911 at the moment.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rhino-man wrote:
Thats great Phil, you can be guinea pig then.

The only other option I've not seen mentioned in the 997 section is the 993 RS mounts which are a more solid design than standard and can be got for a reasonable amount via D911 at the moment.


yes the 993RS ones were an option and I know some guys really like them but I understood they also came with a degree of NVH which I was trying to minimise this time , the Gen1 was fine with rennline as its less refined than the gen2 so given the more aggressive engine note and everything it worked fine but I wanted the feel of semi solids but without the harshness of them for the gen2.

I will keep you posted on the FF semisemi solids Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
rhino-man wrote:
Thats great Phil, you can be guinea pig then.

The only other option I've not seen mentioned in the 997 section is the 993 RS mounts which are a more solid design than standard and can be got for a reasonable amount via D911 at the moment.


yes the 993RS ones were an option and I know some guys really like them but I understood they also came with a degree of NVH which I was trying to minimise this time , the Gen1 was fine with rennline as its less refined than the gen2 so given the more aggressive engine note and everything it worked fine but I wanted the feel of semi solids but without the harshness of them for the gen2.

I will keep you posted on the FF semisemi solids Thumb

Sounds like you are going soft Phil and will be donning the flat cap and string backs of a Sunday afternoon pootle Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scholester wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
rhino-man wrote:
Thats great Phil, you can be guinea pig then.

The only other option I've not seen mentioned in the 997 section is the 993 RS mounts which are a more solid design than standard and can be got for a reasonable amount via D911 at the moment.


yes the 993RS ones were an option and I know some guys really like them but I understood they also came with a degree of NVH which I was trying to minimise this time , the Gen1 was fine with rennline as its less refined than the gen2 so given the more aggressive engine note and everything it worked fine but I wanted the feel of semi solids but without the harshness of them for the gen2.

I will keep you posted on the FF semisemi solids Thumb

Sounds like you are going soft Phil and will be donning the flat cap and string backs of a Sunday afternoon pootle Wink



Floor Floor I know found myself looking at sandals and sock recently nooo if these from the states are too soft I will go semi solids before I do something radical and buy an aircooled 911 Grin
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This one Phil??
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This one Phil??



Floor Floor well if I was going aircooled it would probably end up like that just to watch the faces of the illuminati Floor
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put the 964RS mounts on mine over the weekend. Not a huge difference in NVH but car feels tighter. Shift quality still not great but suspect the shifter needs some tlc
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

redbaron1973 wrote:
Put the 964RS mounts on mine over the weekend. Not a huge difference in NVH but car feels tighter. Shift quality still not great but suspect the shifter needs some tlc


have you got a stock shifter or a SSK mate , if your happy with the stock throw then the GT3 shifter is the one to get with metal bushings and bolt action feel
my problem is I like the SSK throw but dont like the slop so options for me are fit a OE SSK and the function first shift right kit that has metal bushings , but it wont fit my aftermarket SSK without being a PITA to do. So I am on the lookout for a used OE SSK. Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil I'll be interested in how the Function first mounts feel - waiting for your feedback Very Happy I've read a little blurb, mostly from 996 owners.
As I understand these are OEM mounts just with a bit of urethane in the gap, but my wonder is how long before these give up? Will they last less/longer than the semi solid mounts?
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nikos525 wrote:
Phil I'll be interested in how the Function first mounts feel - waiting for your feedback Very Happy I've read a little blurb, mostly from 996 owners.
As I understand these are OEM mounts just with a bit of urethane in the gap, but my wonder is how long before these give up? Will they last less/longer than the semi solid mounts?


Well Nick , I am expecting them to last as long as a new set of OE mounts as he told me they use new mounts not used ones . pumping urathaine into the mounts isnt a new concept and I have read posts from guys that have done a DIY version cleared out the oily stuff in them and filled with urathaine but these are the first done for you fit and forget versions I have seen so I had to try them. Grin
Whats the view of them in the 996 blurb you have read mate is it good or bad Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
nikos525 wrote:
Phil I'll be interested in how the Function first mounts feel - waiting for your feedback Very Happy I've read a little blurb, mostly from 996 owners.
As I understand these are OEM mounts just with a bit of urethane in the gap, but my wonder is how long before these give up? Will they last less/longer than the semi solid mounts?


Well Nick , I am expecting them to last as long as a new set of OE mounts as he told me they use new mounts not used ones . pumping urathaine into the mounts isnt a new concept and I have read posts from guys that have done a DIY version cleared out the oily stuff in them and filled with urathaine but these are the first done for you fit and forget versions I have seen so I had to try them. Grin
Whats the view of them in the 996 blurb you have read mate is it good or bad Thumb

It's all good, and as you pointed out less NVH thumbsup
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats reassuring to know mate thanks Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for the RSS mounts
transformed my car, and extremely well engineered, took about an hour to install on the drive, no more cabin noise than the originals, but reduced the 'pendulum' effect on the back end when pushing on and made the car feel all around 'tighter'. Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good installation guide video on You Tube for those contemplating diy Surprised
https://youtu.be/dBL2-iy6li4
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another +1 for the RSS mounts.
pros:
Super easy diy,
Noticeable difference in improvement,
Not too harsh for passengers,
Good resale value.

Cons,
Non really, I guess price? but they are not horrendously expensive.

Please update your findings Phil as the Function First look very interesting indeed.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went with the RSS semi solids. There was a bit of vibration at idle in neutral, and just below 3000rpm, but it seems to have gone away in this winter.

They really improve control over the engine, and barely add any NVH.

Great upgrade.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just reading up on the different mounts and came across these:
http://nyppd.com/all-parts/nyppd-engine-mount-kit-porsche-911-996-997-98-99-00-01-02-03-04-05-06-07-08-09/
Also claiming to have less NVH than the RSS mounts & a lifetime warranty!
The only thing I don't like is the NYPPD graphics.
I might give them a go Very Happy
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
redbaron1973 wrote:
Put the 964RS mounts on mine over the weekend. Not a huge difference in NVH but car feels tighter. Shift quality still not great but suspect the shifter needs some tlc


have you got a stock shifter or a SSK mate , if your happy with the stock throw then the GT3 shifter is the one to get with metal bushings and bolt action feel
my problem is I like the SSK throw but dont like the slop so options for me are fit a OE SSK and the function first shift right kit that has metal bushings , but it wont fit my aftermarket SSK without being a PITA to do. So I am on the lookout for a used OE SSK. Thumb


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nikos525 wrote:
Just reading up on the different mounts and came across these:
http://nyppd.com/all-parts/nyppd-engine-mount-kit-porsche-911-996-997-98-99-00-01-02-03-04-05-06-07-08-09/
Also claiming to have less NVH than the RSS mounts & a lifetime warranty!
The only thing I don't like is the NYPPD graphics.
I might give them a go Very Happy


those look very similar to the wevo ones interesting about using 50% more urathaine than competitors. they are quite a bit cheaper as well
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaxA wrote:
I went with the RSS semi solids. There was a bit of vibration at idle in neutral, and just below 3000rpm, but it seems to have gone away in this winter.

They really improve control over the engine, and barely add any NVH.

Great upgrade.


They do bed in Max I noticed that with my rennline on the gen1 once they bed in the NVH decreases quite significantly Thumb
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