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squelch
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The winning bidder shows as "not a registered user", so I call shenanigans!

On the plus side - the spice rack and fridge counter are still available... Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

squelch wrote:
It was ended early - about 1.5 hrs before its scheduled end time.

The winning bidder shows as "not a registered user", so I call shenanigans!

On the plus side - the spice rack and fridge counter are still available... Laughing


Ah sorry, didn't realise that! Bandit

And THANK GOD the fridge is still available, wife's 40th this year Sing

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

squelch wrote:
It was ended early - about 1.5 hrs before its scheduled end time.

The winning bidder shows as "not a registered user", so I call shenanigans!

On the plus side - the spice rack and fridge counter are still available... Laughing


Gutted has the kebab skewer been sold then nooo
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This part of the ad made me laugh

I'm not a trader, this is a private sale I just happen to love cars. This is not a desperate sale so please don't make any silly offers. I am selling this and a M3 CSL to make way for one car. I have sold a few of my cars on ebay over the last decade or so and they are always on no reserve auctions because I know they are good and will sell for their market worth. GOOD LUCK!

shouldnt it also say " because I can always pull it early or get my mate to bid it up and then pull it if my scam doesnt pay off and it doesnt get to where I want. and waste all of your times or at worst rob someone of a few grand "

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did you see how much the CSL went for? £54k is strong money even for a CSL, unless also mate-purchased of course.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Trading standards officers warn it is illegal to push up a price artificially by bidding against yourself or by getting family or friends to do so. The process is known as shill bidding and breaks new European Union fair trading rules. Offences carry a maximum fine of £5,000 in UK law.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The CSL made £54,500. It did state full BMW service history and the miles are better than many listed for sale. Still, I reckon they've had their day in the sun!

(I should also point out my error on the GTS ending early, it didn't - my mistake Embarassed )

As for shill bidding, it was illegal in the UK long before any EU rules and it's rife on eBay - someone narrowly avoided jail a few years ago. By some coincidence here's an extract from the Daily Mail's story (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1292179/eBay-seller-fined-bidding-auctions-boost-price.html)

"The items involved included two Mercedes vehicles, a pie and pasty warmer, a cash register, a REFRIGERATED DISPLAY COUNTER, three mobile phones, a Land Rover and a digital camera." No mention of a Spice Rack though, so they may not be linked Floor
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HSC911 wrote:
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Not sure if this sold for £52k or was pulled at that price


It ended on £52k...soon to be re-advertised 'due to time waster' Grin

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spongebob squarepants wrote:
HSC911 wrote:
FZP wrote:
Not sure if this sold for £52k or was pulled at that price


It ended on £52k...soon to be re-advertised 'due to time waster' Grin

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£52 not £25 Sad Sad Sad

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spongebob squarepants wrote:
HSC911 wrote:
FZP wrote:
Not sure if this sold for £52k or was pulled at that price


It ended on £52k...soon to be re-advertised 'due to time waster' Grin

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£52 not £25 Sad Sad Sad

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So funny, I posted it twice nooo
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

another one i am hearing of late is......... 'well it actually sold, and they gave us a £1000 deposit, but we have heard nothing from them since, we cant even return the money to them, so yeh its unexpectedly back on the market'


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So funny, I posted it twice nooo


it was quite funny Grin Grin did everyone spot the bidder about halfway through name Z.....I , think he went over 25 bags though, he pulled out at around 40 bags did make me wonder if it was our man Mr Z.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
HSC911 wrote:
So funny, I posted it twice nooo


it was quite funny Grin Grin did everyone spot the bidder about halfway through name Z.....I , think he went over 25 bags though, he pulled out at around 40 bags did make me wonder if it was our man Mr Z.


It was more a case of too many Hop Lager's last night Embarassed

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It didn't get pulled 1.5 hours before, I was watching it tick down with 10 minutes to go.......
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It didn't get pulled 1.5 hours before, I was watching it tick down with 10 minutes to go.......


Indeed, I did highlight my error in a later post (in hindsight I should've just edited it out which I've now done). Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It didn't get pulled 1.5 hours before, I was watching it tick down with 10 minutes to go.......


Indeed, I did highlight my error in a later post (in hindsight I should've just edited it out which I've now done). Thumb



Am I meant to read all the posts???? DOH Smile
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see that the winning bidder is no longer a registered eBay user...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iwantone wrote:
I see that the winning bidder is no longer a registered eBay user...


Thats the bit that smells a of an attempt at shill bidding that didnt pay off Dont know otherwise why didnt the seller just end the auction early when it didnt get to the price he wanted Question
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think that ebay changed the rules to stop people pulling stuff off if they weren't happy with how the auction was going,

it used to be you could pull an item off if more than 12 hours to go, if less than 12 hours you could pull it off but have to state a reason,

now if you pull it off with less than 12 hours, it goes to the highest bidder and you cop the final value fee,

so its a dangerous game to shill, because you could shill it up and be left with it and be hit with a bill.


aint worth the bother.
 
  
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