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ebmbiker
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:30 pm    Post subject: Newbie first post. Anyone know this 996? Reply with quote

Good evening folks,
I’ve been lurking on here for a couple of weeks now absorbing info from your posts. I’ve seen this 996 C2 for sale and wonder if anyone knows anything about it.


https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F172973516276

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi & Welcome

Don't know anything about the car except - "Recently Had All Important IMS Bearing"

Floor Floor Floor Floor

Where do these people get 'em?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, i don't know it, incredibly low mileage? colours not for me.

might be a winner. Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
Hi & Welcome

Don't know anything about the car except - "Recently Had All Important IMS Bearing"

Floor Floor Floor Floor

Where do these people get 'em?
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I’m going to call them tomorrow and ask a lot of questions and find out who the local Porsche specialist is that did the clutch, RMS and IMS. It’s a 3 1/2 hour drive for me to go and see it so I want to know as much about the car as I can before making the trip.
I also noticed by zooming in on the open door photos some paint bubbling around the latches. Is this common and could it be a sign of possible larger rust problems?
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="ebmbiker"]
alex yates wrote:

I also noticed by zooming in on the open door photos some paint bubbling around the latches. Is this common and could it be a sign of possible larger rust problems?


It's common on the earlier 996s, there's no gasket between the latch and the body, it can be fixed and then make sure to use a latch gasket (VX/Audi part - I think someone has listed the part number on here before now) to stop it recurring
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like it could be a great starting point.

I'm viewing in my phone so not clear but I think there's the usual corrosion creeping out from under the drivers door catch? No biggie but you want a bit knocked off for that.

I'd also want to lower it and refurb the wheels back to silver but hey, that's the fun stuff.

More importantly you want to know if it's had rads and condensers, a clutch, suspension refurb, waterpump, low temp thermostat.

I'm not saying it should have had these as loads haven't but it'll give you any idea as to immediate work.

Judging by the ride height, lack of sports seats and it having the 4 spoke wheel, I'm pretty sure it won't have M030 (factory sports suspension) or 220 (limited slip diff).

No biggie as they'd be due for a refresh anyway. It's just a nice spec to have.

Price wise it could be a bit topendy if it's had very little of the above and given it's winter but at the same time try finding a good C2 manual coupe with less than 80k miles on.

I'd say well worth a look. Thumb



ETA - door catch runs mentioned above while I typed.

Like Demort, I quite like arena red. Quite classy and looks lovely when detailed. But yes mechanical condition trumps all else. That what'll cost you the most if it goes wrong.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bold colour but i like it , rather unusual .. at least in my kneck of the woods .

Wheels look like a recent refurb and i expect the interior has been conalised as its very Tight , no signs of the usual wear and tear .

Milage again is pretty low .

I expect the door latches have been adjusted hence the rust .. not a hard job to have that blown in though on both sides .

Its the engine / under the car that makes or breaks it though .. pretty on top doesnt mean its a gem so ppi before purchase is what i would always say .
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys for the comments.

I’m seeing it as a base to build a fast fun road car. So i’m thinking of Ohlins, Powerflex bushes and then GT geometry set up.

I actually like the colour Smile I think it would look ok with a black bonnet, roof and engine cover. I’ve never been able to leave anything standard!
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You had me onboard until your last sentence. Grin

Each to their own though. Let us know how it goes. Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a great looking gen 1, love the colour, interior, wheels. As Dermot says if the important bits underneath and the engine check out thats a lovely looking car. I personally wouldn't be messing with the look, but you go for your life
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks great value for a low mileage early 3.4. The pick of the bunch of 996 Carreras IMO, cable throttle no pasm no IMS bearing or bore score worries Very Happy

As Alex alludes to, whenever selling a 996 the first question buyers ask is about the IMS bearing, hence why traders get them done.

The incidence of failure is really low, and a 3.4 had a stronger bearing than the later 3.6 so IMS bearing problems on a 3.4 are super super rare.

So likely it wasn't necessary to change the IMS bearing, however it isn't necessarily a bad thing as its likely any oil leaks will have been fixed in that area at the same time.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's more likely that the bearing they replaced the good one with is going to cause more trouble. The mind boggles Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love that colour. Lowered slightly on turbo twists it'd look amazing!

Get it inspected and then get it bought!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks tidy enough, ask questions and deffo a ppi, if all good then why not get yourself what looks a bargain
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey bud.

Looks reasonably tidy but as others have said, be careful to have a contingency for items which may need replacing due to age.

The colour is distinctive which could be a plus (down to taste) but the red and grey goes well together IMO.

Interior looks very clean with minimum wear/recent refresh.

Will it be a daily driver for you? If not, any items needing replacement could be done in order of priority and as you are able to spend.

Should be a sound investment with that mileage and you may be able to have a deal with the seller if you raise the points about corrosion and any other items you identify as not being up together.

An inspection would give peace of mind if you decide this is the one.

Buying from a dealer can have benefits with regards to failures and your rights as a consumer as against buying privately were there is pretty much no such assurances.

Good luck and let us all know if you pull the trigger Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome

Lovely colour thumbsup

He has a lovely Corvette for sale too Surprised

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like that colour; it stands out from the crowd but not in your face kind of way. As others have said i'd be looking to return the wheels to silver; painintg the bonnet/roof/tail in black would be a no-no for me - i'd want to keep it as pretty as possible.

Let us al know how you get on m8 - great to see another early 996 in the fold... Thumb Thumb Thumb Thumb


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ebmbiker
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers guys for the continued comments and advice.
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I've called the garage this morning and no reply. Hopefully they'll call me back soon.

I've got a contingency pot and under no illusions that nothing will need doing to it. It's an 18 year old car after all! Colour changes would only be wrap, not re spray, so easy to change back.

If I knew the VIN number I could check what options it came with but don't think reg number helps in that respect? Dont know
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ebmbiker wrote:
Cheers guys for the continued comments and advice.
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I've called the garage this morning and no reply. Hopefully they'll call me back soon.

I've got a contingency pot and under no illusions that nothing will need doing to it. It's an 18 year old car after all! Colour changes would only be wrap, not re spray, so easy to change back.

If I knew the VIN number I could check what options it came with but don't think reg number helps in that respect? Dont know


Aside from the wheels, looks fairly standard from the pics.

It's a low mileage, manual, C2 so there's 3 good reasons for the purists!

If you visit, check for paint correction and quality of any. I am sure at that age it will have had some cosmetic work done but check around the door shuts, window seals for poor masking/lacquer peel etc.

I looked at a Seal Grey Targa described as 'best example you will find' but tell-tail signs of paint repairs to doors and front wings which did not meet expectation for me. Check the bolts which secure the front wings when you lift the frunk.. just a few pointers Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say options don't really matter, I don't think they are sensitive to price.

M030 OK some love it, I don't. The dampers will be well worn in at that mileage anyway so its largely moot.
M220 LSD, again LSD is a nice badge to wear at Porsche meets but the friction plates will be well worn out and the LSD won't be very effective after 68k miles.

Unlikely to have cruise control, fairly rare on a cable throttle car. Heated seats are nice in winter.
 
  
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