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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:40 am    Post subject: Carbon interior - real versus dipped? Reply with quote

Morning all,
I love my black/black C4S, but I fancy livening the interior up a little. I have seen a few cars fitted with carbon centre consoles and dash trims, which I think looks great, BUT, buying it now seems to be VERY costly and simply not worth it. Whilst proper carbon is clearly the ideal solution, I have seen some great looking photos of the carbon dip that Wicked Coatings offer. Quite a few 997 guys have had various parts done which look good, but has anyone had their 996 dash and console done and can share some photos?

I was thinking of doing the centre console, radio surround/horseshoe, side vent surrounds and instrument surround, and maybe also the plastic under-frunk trims as I'm a tart and the 997 ones I saw looked fantastic!

I have bought the car to drive and enjoy, but given the way C4S prices are creeping up, does anyone think that having non genuine carbon trim could harm the value?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morning Grin Sounds like you have some good ideas to lift the interior.
If your worried about taking the car away from a stock look re future value I would suggest you pick up off ebay etc the trim you want to change get that done and fitted and keep your original trim safe for future refit if needed.

Wicked Coatings can either carbon dip or paint in body colour or a contrast colour your interior trim.
the frunk trim does look good carbon dipped as I am also a tart lol make sure you send them pics of it insitu if your not visiting them so they can see how it sits and ensure each section has the weave pattern facing the right way.

the other thing to lift your interior would be coloured seatbelts these can be done for about £35 per belt. see recent thread in the 997 section.

unless your retro fitting OE carbon very expensive, then the dip is as good an option as buying aftermarket carbon bits and cheaper.

I am guessing you have already seen the pics of my aqua console and the acid green one on my gen1 if not let me know I will post pics. the carbon dipped frunk trim was also off my gen1.
Black on Black cars are a great blank canvas to personalise maybe silver seatbelts and GT silver console and top trim , instrument surround bit like the pics below, that would also look nice with the silver dial surround rings you can get for the 996.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would avoid wood Floor Floor though Surprised Surprised Grin but this pic does give you a good idea of the trim bits that can be done , I did like the door speaker surround and small trim line above the glove box, and the instrament surround , i did my instrament surround silver on the gen1 and aqua on the gen2 Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
I would avoid wood


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HSC911 wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
I would avoid wood


Yuk Yuk Yuk




Floor Floor looks good on a 60s speedboat on the italian lakes, does not have the same effect in a modern sports car nooo nooo
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies. Phil - have you got any more photos of the carbon frunk covers?

I already have red seatbelts which I like, and have had the wheel retrimmed in alcantara with a red top band.

I think a centre console delete and some carbon bits would finish it off nicely.

Does anyone know if the side vent pods come apart so could be dipped, or are they all in one units with the slats etc all built in?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

galahad wrote:
Thanks for the replies. Phil - have you got any more photos of the carbon frunk covers?

I already have red seatbelts which I like, and have had the wheel retrimmed in alcantara with a red top band.

I think a centre console delete and some carbon bits would finish it off nicely.

Does anyone know if the side vent pods come apart so could be dipped, or are they all in one units with the slats etc all built in?



on the 997 the slats come apart not sure on the 996 mate
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heres some pics of the frunk trim inc scuttle dipped ,oh and one of the airbox also dipped
as a comparison the very last pic shows the carbon dipped frunk trim next to actual carbon headlight surrounds Thumb Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
heres some pics of the frunk trim inc scuttle dipped ,oh and one of the airbox also dipped
as a comparison the very last pic shows the carbon dipped frunk trim next to actual carbon headlight surrounds Thumb Thumb



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black C4S here with grey interior and I think the carbon dipped items liven up the cabin and give a nice contrast. I bought these already dipped so have retained the original bits in case it ever needs to go back to stock.

only issue with dipping these items was that in certain lights you can see 'imperfections' in the surface where the underneath is not millpond smooth but I'm fine with it and the old console was quite scratched up. have has some nice feedback from people (incl Porsche people) on how it looks.

I've got the air-vents, console surround, ignition surround and centre tunnel all dipped.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dipped mixed with real carbon works fine once in the interior unless you look real close. Dipped obviously does not have texture. The base colour or shade of grey makes a big difference. Best to go darker than lighter. And get sample made up if it’s not wicked that you use.

It’s not simple to match carbon between batches. So send everything you are likely to want done all in 1 batch ie roof trim around lights etc
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone considered carbon-skinning instead of dipping?
A chap on my local forum is redoing his M3's interior trim with a real carbon fibre skin and it looks good to me and you get the texture.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tgdesign wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
heres some pics of the frunk trim inc scuttle dipped ,oh and one of the airbox also dipped
as a comparison the very last pic shows the carbon dipped frunk trim next to actual carbon headlight surrounds Thumb Thumb



who dipped that for you ???


Wicked Coatings in Poole Dorset Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G2 wrote:
Dipped mixed with real carbon works fine once in the interior unless you look real close. Dipped obviously does not have texture. The base colour or shade of grey makes a big difference. Best to go darker than lighter. And get sample made up if it’s not wicked that you use.

It’s not simple to match carbon between batches. So send everything you are likely to want done all in 1 batch ie roof trim around lights etc


Good advice - thanks. Currently gathering up all the frunk trim parts as and when I think I'm getting a good deal so will wait until they're all purchased before going ahead.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been driving a 2015 Audi S8 for the last couple of years and that came with the dodgiest CF trim I have ever seen. Quite how they felt that was OK for an £85k car I have no idea. Some parts, like the gear lever, were lovely with a really deep lacquer, but the main console/heater surround trim was very thin and flimsy looking and wasn't even in one piece.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

another option would be to get things carbon skinned with real cloth. Its a little more expensive than dipping but when you put the 2 side by side you'll not regret it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andy1985 wrote:
another option would be to get things carbon skinned with real cloth. Its a little more expensive than dipping but when you put the 2 side by side you'll not regret it.


I've had quotes for this on my interior pieces and it's not that much more than the dipping. I think I'll go this route if I ever decide to do it
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does your C4s have the alcantara roof option? Id be going alcantara wrap on some selected items if it were me then but then that's probably as I have a real turn off for shiny interior trim as I feel they just look so dated or trying to hard ( like the S8 above) although that 996 above with the grey interior doesn't look too bad to be fair.

My pet hate is carbon fibre where it does only serve a purpose as to supposedly look nice. There was a glorious looking dark purple aerokit car for sale Oct last year that was so so nice however had grey interior with the full carbon trim option including steering wheel sections. It was just so OTT.
If you do it be subtle with it please and as above do the skinning as the dipping Ive seen does look pretty cheap. Maybe a satin finish to the lacquer would work?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay. wrote:


I've had quotes for this on my interior pieces and it's not that much more than the dipping. I think I'll go this route if I ever decide to do it


May I ask where you got prices for this from as I think it sounds like a better option. Comparing the two side vent pics above, the real one looks quite different to the dipped one.
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