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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:29 pm    Post subject: 991 GT3 RS salvage auction Reply with quote

Looks like a fairly easy repair. Too rich for my pockets though!

https://auctions.asm-autos.co.uk/vehicle-list/details/2016-porsche-911-gt3-rs-3996cc-petrol-automatic-7-speed-2-door-coupe-at-car-transplants-car-transplants-ltd/585556?x=0&type=0&make=PORSCHE&trns=0&fuel=0&catc=0&dist=0&sort=0&srch=&page=1
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

30k repair?
I've reconsidered. £60k
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom,

A man of your talents this is a walk in the park.

Hope you are well.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would stay well away
My guess would be that it has had an underbody digital measurement done
And the aluminium chassis is out of align
I only say this as all the undertrays and wheel arch liners are removed and this would need to be done to do the measure
Other than that if the chassis is ok it's an easy one to repair 👍
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Budgiec4s wrote:
Would stay well away
My guess would be that it has had an underbody digital measurement done
And the aluminium chassis is out of align
I only say this as all the undertrays and wheel arch liners are removed and this would need to be done to do the measure
Other than that if the chassis is ok it's an easy one to repair 👍


Agreed, it is a Cat S so has structural damage. The photo of the windscreen is showing deformation in the dash I think, broken vent fins. Will be an expensive fix.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think I'll pop down to Halfords in the morning and price up some Isopon P38 and a couple of aerosols and have a think about it....
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

squelch wrote:
Think I'll pop down to Halfords in the morning and price up some Isopon P38 and a couple of aerosols and have a think about it....

Very Happy and a 2lb hammer to smooth out the dents
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-Cut Grin

Spoiler looks like it is set up for Rockingham ring Sad

Who's was it Dont know

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FZP wrote:
30k repair?
I've reconsidered. £60k


Already up to £81K....
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikeluke wrote:
FZP wrote:
30k repair?
I've reconsidered. £60k


Already up to £81K....

My post wasn't clear. 60k repair bill
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Budgiec4s wrote:
Would stay well away
My guess would be that it has had an underbody digital measurement done
And the aluminium chassis is out of align
I only say this as all the undertrays and wheel arch liners are removed and this would need to be done to do the measure
Other than that if the chassis is ok it's an easy one to repair 👍


Salvage yards don't usually bother touching a car and just want a fast turnaround, its up to the buyer to do their research.

This will be an easy repair but not particularly cheap, would make a great cheap (from the cost of them now) GT3RS for someone with the correct parts to fix. Chassis doesn't look in bad shape from the damage and the underbody panels looks like they have come off in the crash as they have dirt on them, no airbags deployed is a clue to how hard it hit.

I would guess track day off, O/S front hit and spinning the rear into a tyre wall which have fell on the rear quarter and bending the spoiler?

I'd buy it if I had the cash, I think it'll go for more than £100k plus £20k cost to repair.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd budget £30k for the repair as new parts from Porsche will incur a lot of Porsche tax. There will also be the auction fees etc to consider. I'm out as I do not have the cash or the balls to put a bid in. Up to £70k I would have.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Infra you would be a brave man
If it's had a hard one on the rear wheel
the subframe bolts direct to cast ally mounts
Which are not replaceable if cracked.
The under shields have clearly been removed as they are not damaged or ripped where they are fixed
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trouble with something like this is it brings a 'dream' car almost within grasp. Almost...
A 991GT3RS is out of my league for sure but it didn't stop me staring at it and doing some quick man maths.
A dream car like this could soon become a 'nightmare' car and bleed you dry. It's a hell of a risky punt IMO. I'm oot!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

infrasilver wrote:

I'd buy it if I had the cash, I think it'll go for more than £100k plus £20k cost to repair.


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Just those bent spoiler uprights are a 4 figure sum (if there is any damage to the blade, then it gets expensive). Thankfully the bonnet at least looks okay (that is a 5 figure sum if it isn't), but the reason why it isn't closed points to a likelihood that it doesn't (a lateral impact to the front corner often does that to a 911 - you open it then discover that it no longer closes), which means that the entire front half of the car is likely distorted. The absence of a closeup of the right front wheel points to a possibility of a new one being needed, so that is likely another couple of grand at risk. Which also assumes that the ceramic brake disk is fine (thousands more if it is even chipped). Trim and ducting pieces on GT3s can be hilariously expensive too. Then there is the back. There is no clue as to how well or otherwise the electric steering actuator will have taken the whack. Or the diff (which may have failed and is now electronic and one suspects a lot more expensive than they used to be). If there is anything wrong with the carbon fenders - thousands. The new front PU is heart attack territory for what it is too. New windscreen. The deformation in the right hand C pillar looks somewhat structural as well (though can't tell if it has damaged the edge of the overpriced plexiglass rear screen)...

This is not just a jig-it-straight and paint job - even for someone who really does know how to do that properly. And almost every part not common to a Carrera will be comparatively priced to the moon.

Looks to me like done properly this could potentially be a re-shell (I've no idea what they charge for a new RS shell these days, but given that it is model specific {Turbo with provision for cage mounting plates and without such for rear seats plus a bonded carbon roof worth squillions} it will be a lot) PLUS £20k+ of additional parts just to get started.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh - also look closely at the video. where the rear PU meets the left rear corner of the body doesn't look like it is quite right either. If that isn't some kind of optical illusion then the rear chassis could quite possibly be twisted too (not just the front). Someone with serious expertise would need to get it on a ramp to determine for sure, but to my untrained eye (but as someone who has in the distant past banana-ed a 911 before) this looks more and more like a new shell is called for. I am actually not sure that it is economically viable at the £81k that it has already reached to be honest... Paper Bag
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even a minor front corner repair with suspension damage on a 997 GT3 can run to 20k to repair...
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going on what looks damaged and is potentially going to be damaged because of it, not guessing about roof and suspension or what else might be damaged and adding that to the cost? Things move in a accident and you will find just undoing bolts will release things back into shape. The rads don't even look like they are leaking that's how soft it is.

I used to repair salvage in the past so guesstimating at £20k is obviously ballpark and can potentially run over but I could estimate a repair from pictures before going to see a car fairly accurately or you could waste your time driving over half the country to see a car if you couldn't. You would reject some cars once you had seen them in the flesh though.

I'm not up on all the costs of the parts to repair a 991 GT3RS as I have never done one but if this could be had for £120k repaired it would make a good car for someone.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The repair process on aluminium structured cars is a completely
Different ball game to buying a steel structure and pulling it straight.
These cars under no circumstances are to be pulled
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This won't need to see a jig.
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