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Tobyone
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 Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:13 pm Post subject: MOT and rear seat removal...
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Hi folks
Another daft question but....
I have removed the rear seats , seat belts etc from my car.
Will this be a problem for a mot? 
Oh and whilst I am here can a pair of parts be purchased to replace the OEM parts where the seat belt pulls from at the top?
Hopefully that is clear as anything muddy? 
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MisterCorn
Dijon
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The parts you speak of are available for the 996, don't know about the 997. No idea on the MOT but interested to hear the answer.
MC
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Tobyone
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cheers, yep me to
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FZP
Estoril
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:25 pm Post subject:
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I'm sure there is something as the GT cars would have them
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Regards to the MOT yes car will fail if any seat belts are missing cos as part of the test is to check seat belts are working within standards safety!! As for the seats at the back won't fail cos it's out for a reason and if someone wants to sit at the back uncomfortably then it's down to them  ....
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Tobyone
Spa-Francorchamps
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997.
Thank you, that saves a fail and a big faff going back and forth.
Just a small faff and a few hours putting them back in again.
Long as I know than all is fine and dandy.
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jonno_
Nürburgring
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2005 Porsche 997 Carrera 2S
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:14 am Post subject:
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Hmmm. I'm not so sure. No seats = no seat belt requirement.
I believe there is some sort of MOT tester 'bible' which might have this type of detail covered.
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911tom
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:20 am Post subject:
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My gut feel is you will be fine. If you left the seats and removed the belts there would be an issue. No seats and belts it is no different to a GT3...
In fact are rear seat belts actually a requirement by law? I'm not sure they are... Irrelevant as you have no rears seats but its got me thinking....
If I was you I would ring the garage doing the MOT and ask them how them before going to the effort of refitting etc.
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weebz
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An old car of mine that was stripped, ie no rear seats, all rear belts were removed. Never once failed an MOT in 6 years.
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Tobyone
Spa-Francorchamps
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:58 am Post subject:
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Thanks all.
I gave my OPC a bell and they say that all will be fine if all removed and so nothing can be checked for a purpose. 
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Disco
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:32 am Post subject:
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If there are no rear seats then you do not need rear seat belts. And if someone thinks that there is a potential issue if the V5C says 4 seats I would dispute it - my first GT3 (which was a 996) had 4 seats listed on the paperwork despite never having had rear seats and it never had an MOT issue in the 5.5 years or so that I had it. Removing seats is almost certainly a notifiable modification for insurers, but other than that all ought to be fine IMHO. 
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deMort
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:52 pm Post subject:
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| Tobyone wrote: | Thanks all.
I gave my OPC a bell and they say that all will be fine if all removed and so nothing can be checked for a purpose. |
Yup  
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Tobyone
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:57 am Post subject:
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Guys just to finally clear this up incase anyone is ever interested and is not sure about removing rear seats for what ever reason.
Car passed MOT fine with rear seats and seatbelt removed.
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peterzoom
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:18 pm Post subject:
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I have been lurking a bit on this thread.
Reason being, I viewed a potential purchase in London last year that had its rear seats removed, belts also and nice little infill panels over the resulting spaces left.
I noticed that its previous 3 M.O.T. tests had Advisory notes to the effect that "Rear seats and belts removed" it had passed all of those tests though ( from 2 different stations)
It didn't influence my decision at the time but struck me as slightly odd, why comment if they were not there, was my line of thought.
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deMort
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The advisory is just that .. to make you aware of something , its not always to tell you something is worn ... im guessing it was a Porsche garage that did the mot .
It also kinda covers the MOT tester .. " if unsure pass and advise ".
Thats a comment i was told back when i was an MOT tester .
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Tobyone
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Chaps.
The only advisory on my MOT was to highlight the small nail in the rear offside tyre.
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