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C4-STORM
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having had a rethink on this I am now seriously considering 7mm front, 15mm rear and Ruf Sports Springs. I am doing a bit of a u-turn here but keep coming back to Ruf after ironing a few things out this week.. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to bear in mind, with a 7mm spacer it would most likely be a flat spacer which is not a great idea, as the weigh all sits on the nuts you would want a hubcentric spacer which has a lip like the oem hub so the weight sits on hub: you can only get them in about 10mm plus due to the physical limitations.
I would drop it first, let it settle and see how it looks then start thinking about spacers..
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C4-STORM wrote:
Having had a rethink on this I am now seriously considering 7mm front, 15mm rear and Ruf Sports Springs. I am doing a bit of a u-turn here but keep coming back to Ruf after ironing a few things out this week.. Cool


I'm currently thinking that Ruf springs look like a good solution too.... but I'm going with the spacers first (15mm all round) it's the cheaper option first too Laughing then lower to match the spacers Dont know I'm looking for a fat look rather than a low one though really Bandit
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asterix_the_gaul wrote:
Just to bear in mind, with a 7mm spacer it would most likely be a flat spacer which is not a great idea, as the weigh all sits on the nuts you would want a hubcentric spacer which has a lip like the oem hub so the weight sits on hub: you can only get them in about 10mm plus due to the physical limitations.
I would drop it first, let it settle and see how it looks then start thinking about spacers..


Ruf do a 7mm Hub Centric spacer, their spacers are lovely but price tag to go with and they won't recommend using them with any wheels other than their own Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just my opinion.
When it comes to spacers buy the best possible and genuine hubcentrics preferably. I had some bad experience with cheap (not that cheap but cheaper than eibach) ones on a car that ripped the lug off two sets (the bit that sticks out that the alloy centres on) and caused loads of vibration issues. In the end bit the bullet bought the eibachs and they were great. Depends on manufacturer but usually 5mm or less is a flat spacer and the wheel may not centre which will cause vibrations at speed.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I'm mis-reading it, but this post from 2014 with the 996 options price list suggests that C4S (and Turbo) came with the 'Sport Chassis with 10mm drop' (aka M030) as standard?

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=90683
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ordered from Ruf today. Will post some pics after fitment thumbsup
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

& 7mm hubcentrics for the front with longer Ruf bolts..
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Spacers are on now and I am impressed with the quality - you get what you pay for! Changed the front bolts for H&R studs. I will post pics when we get a decent day. But they are a bit of a must have now they're on. I decided to fit the springs separately so that you guys can see the difference with spacers only first. Hope to fit springs next week..
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good call on the spiggoted 7mm fronts better option than the flat that most companies sell in that size. , just as a note for others, Porscheshop sell the spiggoted spacers down to 3mm Thumb

Dont worry if they look a bit wide with spacers at stock ride hight as the lowering springs will pull the top camber in slightly and give you the arch clearance Grin Thumb
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Good shout Phil Thumb
Must say she looks the nuts now.. Grin
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking forward to seeing it with the spacers on Sunday morning mate Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm hoping to still come over but the missus has 'Aussie Flu' mate.
I had it first but when I had it, it was called 'Man Flu' and apparently that's quite common and doesn't warrant any sympathy whatsoever frustrated
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C4-STORM wrote:
I'm hoping to still come over but the missus has 'Aussie Flu' mate.
I had it first but when I had it, it was called 'Man Flu' and apparently that's quite common and doesn't warrant any sympathy whatsoever frustrated


Floor Floor Floor I always thought man flu was practically terminal and you needed full time care and bed rest mate . shes should think herself very very lucky you survived. Grin
tell her to "man up " cant be as bad as having kids or so they keep rattling on about how bad it is , she's lucky that women dont suffer with manflu and only have childbirth as the worst thing to contend with. Floor
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Floor ... Help
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have some before and after pics for the spacers? Looking forward to seeing it with them and the springs and also hearing how the ride is affected.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how much of a job is it to change from bolts to studs?
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read this thread (and similar) with interest as It's something I like the look of. But I'm often told to leave well alone as it messes up the cars handling.
I even read in the last Total911 mag that lowering the suspension can cause 'snap over steer' so leave well alone. They were referring to the GT3 during track use. Perhaps if you're not pushing on it doesn't matter but I'd like to leave all settings optimum.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

galahad wrote:
Do you have some before and after pics for the spacers? Looking forward to seeing it with them and the springs and also hearing how the ride is affected.


Hi mate. As soon as we get a decent day and I am not at work I will take some pics with spacers only. Hopefully will fit the springs next week and then will update this thread again with pics Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skinny_monkey wrote:
how much of a job is it to change from bolts to studs?


Easy! The H&R studs have an allen key fitment and are also supplied with thread lock on the short thread which turns into the hub. Remove bolts to take wheel off and then turn the studs into the hub and locate spacer/wheel thereafter. Must say studs look a lot neater than bolts as the nut sits flush. Seems more of a thorough job to use studs with spacers and the fronts match the rears which have the push-through studs already fitted.
Again, will post some more pics shortly mate Thumb
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