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Phil 997
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

996ttalot wrote:
I think it is worth pointing out about perceived benefits. Firstly the maximum benefit is when the current car that you fit the DSC module to has suspension in good condition and by suspension I include items such as engine mounts etc as well. Additionally having a good geometry and tyres again makes a difference.

It is also fair to say that the difference in sport mode will be noticed more by a race driver than a normal driver - that is not being in any way critical of any one persons driving - it is just a fact that we found when we did a controlled test with someone who races who could immediately see the benefits for example on back to back testing - night and day differences.

Everyone should be able to feel the normal mode benefits and everyone should be able to feel benefits in sport mode but the degree to which you feel will be dictated to by conditions of the car, conditions of where you are doing the test (road/track) and driver ability.

Hope that makes sense.

Ken


Ken, Thats a great explanation and I for one hadn't considered the condition of things like engine mounts, geo etc as why different people felt differing benefits. its so noticeable to me I couldn't understand why one or two others couldn't feel the same as me. now I understand its possibly other components in each car which will be in differing conditions . Thumb
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of good info on these and looking at getting one, but, being a Gen I owner I gather that for this unit to work correctly I need a DSC 3 axis accelerometer, my question is this, can I install an OEM accelerometer from a Gen II and have the same results?
Does anyone have the wiring diagram for the DSC unit?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Missed out on this deal but Ken at 9e honoured the group price for me so mine will be arriving in about a week.

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Phil 997
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

davidjf7 wrote:
Missed out on this deal but Ken at 9e honoured the group price for me so mine will be arriving in about a week.

Super excited thumbsup


You wont be disapointed David, I love the improvements to the PASM ride and now spend a lot of time in sport mode without loosing fillings Grin its one of those mods that you think the car should have come from the factory like this and whether you like stock or modded cars its so worth doing Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
davidjf7 wrote:
Missed out on this deal but Ken at 9e honoured the group price for me so mine will be arriving in about a week.

Super excited thumbsup


You wont be disapointed David, I love the improvements to the PASM ride and now spend a lot of time in sport mode without loosing fillings Grin its one of those mods that you think the car should have come from the factory like this and whether you like stock or modded cars its so worth doing Thumb


Can't wait Phil - am hoping that it will improve my confidence when pressing on over bumpy b-roads.

Feel like I'm hanging on sometimes Grin
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I decided not to get one in the end, mainly because the car is SORNed until the end of march (first time ive not used it all year) but reading the reviews i want/need/must have one

What are the odds on getting group price when i put her back on the road?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The current price isn’t much more.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speak to Ken Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this is a very worthwhile upgrade, to make the most of the hardware you already have fitted. TPC Racing should sell them with stickers for the back window, like Öhlins gives you a whole sheet... Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fitted the DSC module to my 997.2 C2S at the weekend and to say I'm impressed is an understatement.

This is how the car should always have been.

The car feels so tight and tied down now, with a much more willing front end and gives me so much more confidence.

It really is night and day.

Left it in the firm setting this morning on my rough b-road commute and it really feels good.

Before, soft was too soft and hard too hard - it unsettled the car on normal British roads and even sometimes made my eyes go blurry Grin

One thing that really showed up the difference was a road I always travel that has some pretty large ridges across it; (the kind that make you wince). In the firm setting this morning it absorbed them better than the standard soft setting!

Then, come the corners and it just feels amazing - can carry so much more speed than before.

In the firm setting it also retains that 997 feeling of being a sports car rather than a GT. But in the soft setting it's much more comfortable in a straight line and still feels sharp in the corners.

If anyone is still trying to make up their mind, I'd say just get it!

Ken at 9e was kind enough to honour the group buy price, so hopefully will for others!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice review Smile For the money it has to be one of the best (and first) modifications one should do to a 997.
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Phil 997
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great review , I still grin everyday at how much better the car feels with mine fitted and would say I spend at least 50% of the time in sport if not more. It's one of those upgrades that will appeal to a guy that wants the car stock or someone that wants it modded , they really should have come from the factory like this Thumb Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite being a long term advocate of keeping my 911s as Porsche made them, influenced by such universal acclaim, I couldn't resist the temptation and had mine fitted yesterday.

After jumping in and driving the car my immediate delight was somewhat subdued. The ride definitely seemed a little more supple but perhaps not quite as significantly improved as I had hoped it would be.

Everything changed when I left the rutted and off cambered lanes that my Indy is based on and joined the smoother, but still B roads, that I do most of my local driving on. It only took a mile or so for the smile to grow on my face as I realised just how much different the car now felt.

For the first few miles I revelled in the noticeable extra comfort before testing the car in 'Sport', something that in 3 years I've rarely bothered to do in my home county.

The result was a revelation. Recently I've been lucky enough to drive my local roads in several different newer cars, most notably a Cayman 718S, and had come to realise just how 'old' my 11 year old motor had become. Unbelievably this little cream box of tricks seems to have knocked years off the feel of my car and made it a whole new joy to drive.

I went on to replicate the 50 mile cross-country stint that I did in the 718S last week and am immensely pleased to say that after starting to feel that perhaps a change to a newer, nimbler car would be in order I have found a whole new love my red car.

When I got home I couldn't bear to put the old girl away and persuaded my long suffering '911 widow' to come for a test drive. My missus has always hated being a passenger when driven spiritedly in a Turbo but even she had to admit that it gave a whole new level of comfort to the experience in 'D' and a far less spine jangling, teeth chattering body bashing in 'M Sport'.

All-in-all I'd have to summarise by saying that whilst it is undeniably an expensive bit of kit it's far cheaper than buying a 6 year newer car and has to be THE best way for unlocking the hidden potential of any 911 and most especially a Turbo.

I can't wait to see how the old girl (the car - not the missus) performs on half decent A roads and even more so in the realms of the Eiffel Forest in May. Dance
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what a cracking couple of write ups! I am also still enjoying the upgrade! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fab news Terry. What took you so long to heed my fine words Wink
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Concur with all the above. You can engage sport PASM just about anywhere now Thumb
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jcx wrote:
Fab news Terry. What took you so long to heed my fine words Wink


Cheers Joe. I bought mine before Christmas when the car was SORN'd and waited until after warranty renewal before fitting.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T8 wrote:
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Fab news Terry. What took you so long to heed my fine words Wink


Cheers Joe. I bought mine before Christmas when the car was SORN'd and waited until after warranty renewal before fitting.


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Phil 997
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Terry, you sly old fox not telling any of us you had this planned .Great review and yes an amazing little box of tricks . Thumb Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't stop driving my 911 now!

Poor Boxster hasn't had a look in since fitting this module Grin

I've just been leaving mine in the harder setting all the time and it's perfect

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