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evodarren
Spa-Francorchamps
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
Posts: 297
Location: Southend on sea
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 Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:26 pm Post subject: 991.1 Gt3 replacement for 997.1 Gt3 test drive
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Took a 991.1 GT3 out today from a Porsche main dealer.
A few things before driving when checking over the car. Car did not have leather. I kow its a track car but at that price felt cheap compared to my 997 GT3 which has extended leather everywhere. Also the carpets,. My car feels like a Rolls Royce compared to the carpets in the 991. Quality is definately down on some materials.
Now to the drive, i had a good 40 odd miles to the dealer to have a good play in mine. Ride comfort is more compliant in the 991, soaks up the bumps better. Steering feels good, very direct, simulatr to my car that was just set up by Centre Gravity. 997 stering does move about a bit more, something i quite like most of the time. The 991 does give you confidence though, very good for electric steerin. PDK works brillant, quite supprised in sport mode and auto how good it was, holds the gears untill the red line.
Performance wise it is definately faster as all the numbers say, but to be honest as driver feel it didnt feel to far apart.
My car is 10 years old. Still has Porsche warranty untill November 2018, all services done by Porsche. I have owned it for 5 of them.
Strange feeling, but i know its newer, easier to drive, but, it doesnt feel £45 - £50K worth the extra.
Im sure i shall get told why i need to change lol
Thanks
Darren
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Senoj
Zolder
Joined: 23 Jan 2006
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Location: Sussex
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I’d definitely recommend the DSC module for the PASM. It let’s the 997 compete with the fidelity of the 991 system and then gives you the ability to tweek it yourself.
991 is a very fast car. The gearshift speed alone will get it ahead of a 997 on a track thats before the extra HP , RWS etc.
But, no Mezger 
I cant quite see the 40k delta either but sometimes people pay that happily for the change of scenery. Both awesome cars.
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FredGT3
Monza
Joined: 06 Sep 2011
Posts: 162
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So you're liking my old DSC unit then 
Of course their v2 unit works similar magic in a 991 as I'm finding out now
Regards
Fred
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Senoj
Zolder
Joined: 23 Jan 2006
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Location: Sussex
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| FredGT3 wrote: | So you're liking my old DSC unit then
Of course their v2 unit works similar magic in a 991 as I'm finding out now
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Fred |
Yes! Sent it back for an update. Impressive bit of kit. 
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NLW73
Barcelona
Joined: 27 May 2014
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Location: Yateley
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check which engine its on. if its original one then walk away as some have had a few engines replaced and it should be on a certain number with the update to warrant keeping it.
make sure its got warranty and all is included as I would not fancy replacing an engine on one of those!!
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evodarren
Spa-Francorchamps
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
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Location: Southend on sea
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There was no evidence of replacement engine. The sales guy thinks the new engine was fitted from factory.
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s2000db
Hockenheim
Joined: 06 Oct 2005
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Location: Sth Bucks
2011 Porsche 997 Turbo S
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I'd only buy one of these with full OPC warranty, imo...
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evodarren
Spa-Francorchamps
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Location: Southend on sea
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Yes the one i looked at will come with 2 years OPC warranty.
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FredGT3
Monza
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| NLW73 wrote: | check which engine its on. if its original one then walk away as some have had a few engines replaced and it should be on a certain number with the update to warrant keeping it.
make sure its got warranty and all is included as I would not fancy replacing an engine on one of those!! |
It needs to be on at least an E1, which it will be. Mine was done at the dealers. Its absolute rubbish to say it needs to be on anything later than that. There have been some failures but equally others are going strong.
I do agree about only buying with an OPC warranty.
Regards
Fred
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Diggermeister
Spa-Francorchamps
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I think the 991.1 GT3 is much easier to 'get' than the 997.1 GT3; it is a more user friendly car. Very probably in the way the 997.1 GT3 differs from the 996.1 GT3. So different cars - all three of them - with different relative merits and, possibly appealing to different abilities and types of owner.
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evodarren
Spa-Francorchamps
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:05 pm Post subject:
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| Diggermeister wrote: | | I think the 991.1 GT3 is much easier to 'get' than the 997.1 GT3; it is a more user friendly car. Very probably in the way the 997.1 GT3 differs from the 996.1 GT3. So different cars - all three of them - with different relative merits and, possibly appealing to different abilities and types of owner. |
The 991 gt3 was a lot easier to drive in normal conditions. The 997 you have to work harder but it's so rewarding .
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Bigfra
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I've bought it after never driving one 😂😂
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evodarren
Spa-Francorchamps
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| Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:12 am Post subject:
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| Bigfra wrote: | | I've bought it after never driving one 😂😂 |
And it is a cracking car Fraser . Well done
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Bigfra
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Hope so mate 😂👍
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Roro
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| Bigfra wrote: | | I've bought it after never driving one 😂😂 |
Congrats on the new purchase
Very brave?!
What was the motivation for the change?
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Diggermeister
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| Bigfra wrote: | | I've bought it after never driving one 😂😂 |
Whatever the variant, 996 to 991, ultimately you have to buy a GT3 with your heart, because no one actually 'needs' one anyway. You've fully committed to that part anyway! Congratulations.
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MJA911
Magny-Cours
Joined: 10 Dec 2013
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2012 Porsche 991 Carrera
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Looking forward to hearing more Bigfra, only had my 997.1 five minutes and haven’t really got to know it yet, but the 991 GT3s that were at last weekend’s Goodwood meet had me drooling.
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Bigfra
Monza
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| Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:21 pm Post subject:
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Thanks lads. I am sure it will be something else
I loved my 997 but I just want something newer to enjoy.
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