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BK911
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 16 Mar 2008
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Location: London

1990 Porsche 964 Carrera 4

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:45 pm    Post subject: Bought a 996 C4s.. (8 years after selling my 964) Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

So a couple of weeks ago after quietly being on the hunt for a few months I finally pulled the trigger on my second 911.

It's been 8 years since I stupidly sold my 964 for £11,200 frustrated but in that time I've bought, renovated and sold three houses, had two kids and been promoted at work!!! finally managed to justify a 911 as a daily treat to get me to the airport and back Very Happy

Using my normal left field strategy (Alfa's and Lotus since my 964) I've gone for the unloved and under rated 911.. back in 2007 the 964 was available for £15k... for me the 996 is a deja vu!! It reminds me a bit of my aircooled days in an analogue kind of way.. I'm looking at that oil px gauge rising up toward 5 making sure it doesn't drop below 1, haha oldskool!

Having missed out on the 964 appreciation I'm also taking a punt, I've gone for a C4s... could it be the next widebody 911 to do something special in terms value? It's certainly gathering cult appeal from what I've been reading. Not my primary reason but a zero depreciation car would be nice before one day finding a manual 991 GT3 Touring!! haha in my dreams...

Here's what I've bought:-
49,000 Miles
3 owners
Manual
Basalt black metallic/Full Tan leather upgrade
Sunroof (not bothered but nice to have)
Cruise control
Litronic headlights
Bose sound package
Detailed history file including every invoice including original £62k purchase invoice
It's just had a new clutch, new brakes and IMS bearing upgrade and a 48k service done 700 miles ago for just over £5000 at Parr!!!

Driven it everyday for two weeks and it's just incredible. Strong, characterful and poised on the road. Steering is a delight (I'm really picky having sold an Evora), engine sweet and handling sublime albeit with a few squeaks.. missed the weight at the back feel.

It feels like a "modern classic" 911... love it. It's my everyday cult car that does everything a 911 should and doesn't cost six figs!
First job is a sports exhaust and suspension refresh, can't wait.

thumbsup

Cheers,
Brij Very Happy
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HSC911
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Joined: 23 Jul 2014
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back!

Congrats
 
  
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jotaking
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 01 Jun 2012
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome thumbsup

Seems your swapping Porch's for Porsches!

I think you are dead right about the 4s.

I was a 996 hater, headlights, interior etc..

In recent times I have had my head turned a few times by the 4s. The widebody looks amazing from the back.

Great choice.
 
  
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APL911
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ooooh, that's nice.

Well done on the procreation, promotion and general progression. thumbsup
 
  
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paul987
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Joined: 27 Feb 2015
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you made the correct choice... I'm not at all biased Laughing
Happy motoring Thumb
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Location: North East England


PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome

Superb looking motor Thumb
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Osh
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stunning car m8 and welcome to the fold... Thumb


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Jay Man
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Joined: 01 Aug 2014
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely car, welcome. I have an aircooled 911 too and believe the 996 is very unrated as was my 3.2 7 years ago when I bought it.
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Niall996
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice! Great cars.
 
  
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BChivs
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks mint! Thumb
 
  
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Joined: 29 Jun 2010
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Location: Kent


PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the kettle club.

Values of the 996 C4S are now back to where they were in 2009 when I started looking to buy my first 911.

At that time a similar mileage but 2 year older 993 could be had for the same money and we all know what happened over the next few years. If history repeats itself the same could happen with 996 v 997 so at the very worst you wont lose any money.

An added + is that at 49k miles now it's never going to be a super-collectable investment so you can enjoy driving it as well as looking at it.

Have fun thumbsup
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Marky911
Suzuka


Joined: 04 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cracking purchase BK!

There seem to be a lot of us ex-964 owners in here. I sold mine for £12k in 2008. Bought a 964 Turbo for £18k which I sold 5 years later for £25k. It popped up for sale at RPM last year for £100k. Sad

Anyway like you say the 996 is a modern classic and it has a bit of a 964 feel to it in some ways. Certainly steering feedback and the weight of the controls.

Enjoy the car. Thumb
 
  
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BK911
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Joined: 16 Mar 2008
Posts: 251
Location: London

1990 Porsche 964 Carrera 4

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the comments and welcome back.

@Marky911 At least we both owned them. The turbo is gutting, I still regularly swear at myself!!!!!!!!

996, I really didn't think it would have anything like as much feel as it does. Best of both worlds, you have the smaller proportions (cars these days are bloated!), that flat six delivery and some modern creature comforts like the PSM, air conditioning, a trip computer, cruise control etc etc!!

I look back at the side profile and see the classic 911 profile, perfect. The rear (as good looking as any 911) is as wide as my out going E92 M3.. It's a proper 911.

The steering is my favourite bit about the car at the moment. The steering in my brothers 991 is fantastic but still lacks the ultimate feel of the hydraulic... in my mind anyway! Grin

List of jobs:-
1.
Any advice of suspension would be appreciated. Back in the 964 it was all about KW, what can anyone recommend for everyday driving? (I have an Elise for trackdays so don't want anything to track orientated). Is it possible to get a factory MO30 still?

2.
Is a Gundo Hack advisable? Did a G-Pipe in the 964, best money I ever spent!! Or CarGraphic but that's quite expensive. I'd rather spend on the suspension and bushes and just release the noise from the flat 6...

3.
Interior gets refurbished next month with Paul (did my 964) at Reviveleather . Com

4.
Stereo - Ordered an Alpine double din with Apple CarPlay. I use Maps and steam music. Want to move the air con bit down and ditch the CD rack.

Cheers,


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The Lone Ranger
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:10 am    Post subject: M030 Reply with quote

Yes the M030 kit is still available, just bought kit from Porsche. Great addition in my opinion. Thumb
 
  
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BK911
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Joined: 16 Mar 2008
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Location: London

1990 Porsche 964 Carrera 4

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: M030 Reply with quote

The Lone Ranger wrote:
Yes the M030 kit is still available, just bought kit from Porsche. Great addition in my opinion. Thumb


Is this any dealer?
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BChivs
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Joined: 02 Aug 2017
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: M030 Reply with quote

The Lone Ranger wrote:
Yes the M030 kit is still available, just bought kit from Porsche. Great addition in my opinion. Thumb


Sounds pricey being an OEM dealer setup? I was thinking along the lines of H&R/RUF springs and ME030 dampers from design911.

The alpine double din sounds interesting.....do you have a link?
 
  
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Paul OB
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Joined: 09 Sep 2017
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats looks like a beauty! Love my 4s too!
 
  
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ministig
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Joined: 07 Mar 2017
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back - the C4S is a fanatsastic machine! (Biased opinion of course)

I have KW coilovers on mine, they are a great choice if your budget can stretch!
 
  
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C4-STORM
Monza


Joined: 29 Aug 2017
Posts: 174
Location: Hampshire

2004 Porsche 996 Carrera 4S

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a great position to be in with the house, family etc - congrats Thumb

.. Lovely miles/spec and peace of mind with the recent work carried out.

Enjoy Drive
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BK911
Spa-Francorchamps


Joined: 16 Mar 2008
Posts: 251
Location: London

1990 Porsche 964 Carrera 4

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C4-STORM wrote:
What a great position to be in with the house, family etc - congrats Thumb

.. Lovely miles/spec and peace of mind with the recent work carried out.

Enjoy Drive


thanks for the comments, so many like minded owners.

C4-storm, after working my way up to the 964 that I had to sell in order to raise cash for a bigger home.. bought an Alfa GTV 2.0 for £1200, drove it for two years put on 20,000 miles and sold it for £700... Laughing makes this 996 even more satisfying, not missing out on a great drivers car.

Just paid the same amount as my old Alfa for an MO30 suspension kit Thumb

Enjoying the 911 honeymoon..

So far this week I've committed to suspension. Car goes in today!

Notice you've got the K&N Induction Filter System, would you recommend? Some induction noise would be good, did you fit it yourself?

I'd like to try and get to know my car by doing some bits myself.
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