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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:02 am    Post subject: WANTED 997 Turbo Engine Reply with quote

Looking for a 997 Turbo engine for a buddy of mine. He just suffered catastrophic engine failure.
Thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:23 am    Post subject: Re: WANTED 997 Turbo Engine Reply with quote

nikos525 wrote:
Looking for a 997 Turbo engine for a buddy of mine. He just suffered catastrophic engine failure.
Thanks
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What was the catastrophic engine failure?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ES motors are selling a built one at the moment including turbos and exhaust.

Looks a bit special...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously I do not know the extent of the failure but would it not be better to rebuild the engine to keep the original engine numbers?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't think that engine and chassis numbers were related on the more modern Porsches, so how would anybody know if it had been changed?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought there was a record of which engine and engine number was part of each car's build.

There were discussions on here on whether it was better to replace or rebuild a M96/M97 engine for resale purposes to the uninitiated which led me to believe there was a relation but maybe they isn't.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay just looked it up and you need to update your V5 if your engine has been changed.... https://www.gov.uk/change-vehicle-details-registration-certificate
so a new buyer would know if he did a search like this one https://www.motorcheck.ie/faqs/can-you-tell-if-the-vehicle-has-had-its-engine-replaced/
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: WANTED 997 Turbo Engine Reply with quote

DaveH911 wrote:
nikos525 wrote:
Looking for a 997 Turbo engine for a buddy of mine. He just suffered catastrophic engine failure.
Thanks
Nik


What was the catastrophic engine failure?

When he bought it - used with a Gembella body kit- it was running way to much boost, I can't remember how much but when I drove it I was like woa, too much, he rebuilt his gearbox twice in the space of 3 months!
I don't know exactly what happened to it, but he showed me pictures of a cracked head and a nice hole.
I'll ask him to send me some pics.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragpicker wrote:
ES motors are selling a built one at the moment including turbos and exhaust.

Looks a bit special...

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Thanks I think he's seen that one, IIRC they quoted him 30K - he doesn't want to spend that much
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nikos525 wrote:
ragpicker wrote:
ES motors are selling a built one at the moment including turbos and exhaust.

Looks a bit special...

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Thanks I think he's seen that one, IIRC they quoted him 30K - he doesn't want to spend that much


If its the one I'm thinking of, they want over double that...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

His most cost-effective remedy is to rebuild his own engine isn't it? And take out the remap causing causing so much boost.

Buying a scrap engine means replacing bits that might have been fine in his own failed engine.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely just rebuild it, buying another engine will probably be at least 15k.

There are always heads and engine parts on eBay etc.

Rebuild should be about 3-4k plus parts...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get in touch with ESMotors, they may have other engines lying around they'd be prepared to sell... would love to know who's map was on it?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Definitely just rebuild it, buying another engine will probably be at least 15k.

There are always heads and engine parts on eBay etc.

Rebuild should be about 3-4k plus parts...



It's the 'plus parts' that will bite you!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like an ideal time for an upgrade to me, new rods / pistons / liners....

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It sounds like an ideal time for an upgrade to me, new rods / pistons / liners....

MC


As I said the 'plus parts' Floor
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MisterCorn wrote:
It sounds like an ideal time for an upgrade to me, new rods / pistons / liners....

MC


That's how I'd view it Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the ideas guys, I think he's going on the advice of his indi garage.
I'm not sure of his exact intentions, I think the indi told him to find a new block/engine the reason being that he would use all of his own "plus parts" and then rebuild the used block that he will buy.
Like I said I'm sure of what has exactly happened but he sent me some pics:
I'm going with him next week to see his indi to see what his plans are.
 



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, bust casings. That's double fooked. Doubt there'll be much salvaged from that. Looks like a build from the crankshaft up. And that's if the crankshaft hasn't been scored to death.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Norfolk & Idea wrote:
Ah, bust casings. That's double fooked. Doubt there'll be much salvaged from that. Looks like a build from the crankshaft up. And that's if the crankshaft hasn't been scored to death.

Norfolk so do you reckon his indi was right in telling him to get a new engine without pulling anything part?
 
  
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