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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:31 pm    Post subject: Seat backs vinyl wrap Reply with quote

So, over the years my kids have kicked & scratched the back of my seats and they look like I need to do something to them.
I was thinking of getting them vinyl wrapped, but I'm not really sure of which colour I want to go for.
Exterior is basalt black, interior as all black leather, alcantara glove box & lower dash, PCM & stack painted piano black, the only other colour is aluminium from the steering wheel, vents, tiptronic surround and horseshoe.
Anyone done anything similar?
Was either thinking of metallic black or piano black but it might be black overkill!
He's an interior pick, ideas anyone Question
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Following - wanted mine done in gloss white but PW pro advised that the vinyl wouldn't take to the seat back and advised me not to go down this route...

If people have had good results then I will revisit this!
Otherwise when I get round to it I am hydro dipping them
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most seem to be hudro dipping /carbon dipping them of getting them colour coded to the body colour. Wrapping would be another viable option if if can be done so I will be watching this thread to see if anyone has had success wrapping the seat backs . lol I can see gulf livery seat backs now in my head Grin Grin Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You & me both Phil, fancy doing something with mine. I have virtually the same interior. Im getting the seatbelts replaced with Red webbing soon, and im thinking id like to do something with the seat backs.

Oh & no probably not luminous green!
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cliffbase wrote:


Oh & no probably not luminous green!


Floor Floor Acid green sadly just wont work with Aqua blue for me now Floor I am just about to get my seat belt webbing redone in a blue close to the body colour which should look good with the center console and door spears and will leave the seatbacks needing attention at some point if wrap is an option it would be good as A it probably can be done insitu and B when the kids have knocked it about it can be easily redone. So I am hoping someone has done it and can recommend it. Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked a reputable wrap place about the viability of wrapping seat backs.

You would think that it could be easier than painting, and perhaps done without removing seats Dont know

He said they did it once.....but never again


In summary , the vinyl wrap needs heatguns.
You can't put that much heat near the leather .
That means seats need to be removed from car and disassembled.

So It works out as expensive / as much hassle as painting
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

askgeez wrote:
I asked a reputable wrap place about the viability of wrapping seat backs.

You would think that it could be easier than painting, and perhaps done without removing seats Dont know

He said they did it once.....but never again


In summary , the vinyl wrap needs heatguns.
You can't put that much heat near the leather .
That means seats need to be removed from car and disassembled.

So It works out as expensive / as much hassle as painting


Aha that makes sense Guy thanks Thumb Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right guys, my wrapping guy told me that he can do it without removing the seats, he said that he will need the car for the whole day, I didn't go into any details about how he was going to do it etc but I will talk to him about it again before I go ahead with it.
I'd seen a wrap done on a 991 in 3M Di-Noc but that's not really my style, I had asked about the 4/5D carbon stuff but the guy told me that adhesion isn't that good with the 4/5D vinyl.
I like the idea of liveries - hmmm or maybe I'll go with a piano black and add some stripes - kinda like the Champion motorsports ones - in matte black.
I'll keep you guys updated as to what I decide in the end.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bikeracer had his seat backs wrapped in leather by Linus, looks the dogs. I think the cost is £500 for the pair.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be careful about wrapping seat backs. I dont think the vinyl is up to the wear and tear that kids getting in and out cause. Vinyl is quite strong but it can get damaged relatively easily too.

I'm no expert but I did recently vinyl wrap the units in our campervan and the kids have already managed to scrape through it in a couple of locations.

Hope this is of some use.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CarreraMonkey wrote:
I'd be careful about wrapping seat backs. I dont think the vinyl is up to the wear and tear that kids getting in and out cause. Vinyl is quite strong but it can get damaged relatively easily too.

I'm no expert but I did recently vinyl wrap the units in our campervan and the kids have already managed to scrape through it in a couple of locations.

Hope this is of some use.


Just to add to that, My friend owns a wrapping company and I am down there quiet alot. You do see alot of imperfections appear still from the paint underneath and if there are deep scratches in the back of the seat (Like mine) then I would assume they would still come through.

I am looking at getting mine smart repaired to match the original seat back colour. They guy is mobile too and quoted me £150 per seat back.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to have the seat backs repainted in body colour (which seems to be the preferred option out here), but in the meantime, they've been ceramic coated (along with the exterior) to keep them looking good.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is turning into an interesting thread seeing the different options guys are doing other than banning anyone from the back of the car Grin Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quite like the carbon on my seat backs Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen both painted and leather retrims on the seat backs though and they both look Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a couple of Brushed Aluminium vinyls which would tie into the Aluminium on the steering wheel, and being grained, it won't show damage that quickly. It is a thicker vinyl, so you have to speak to the wrapping guys, but it'd probably work.

Can hydro dipping do such big parts? I'm not one for 'look-a-like' efforts, but carbon seat backs with plenty of layers of lacquer to protect it might be on the cards!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

v8fettler wrote:
There is a couple of Brushed Aluminium vinyls which would tie into the Aluminium on the steering wheel, and being grained, it won't show damage that quickly. It is a thicker vinyl, so you have to speak to the wrapping guys, but it'd probably work.

Can hydro dipping do such big parts? I'm not one for 'look-a-like' efforts, but carbon seat backs with plenty of layers of lacquer to protect it might be on the cards!

https://goo.gl/images/SCfztD


I know Wicked Coatings can dip seat backs , the art is keeping the lines straight to give the correct effect , I am also thinking about the new clear self healing wrap that guys put on the fronts of the cars this would protect whatever you did to the seat backs and presumably would heal the odd scuff etc keeping them looking good. but I would need to see if it could be applied to the seatbacks ok. if so it would even protect the stock hardback seat from scuffs. Question
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm Definitely doing mine in carrera white or as close a match as possible.
My seats don't have the head rest emblem so I may actually get the interior re-trimmed.
Not sure yet - finding time!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, had a long discussion with the guy who will wrap my seats tomorrow!
Talked in length about life of the vinyl, possible damage, adhesion & if it can be done properly is it will look OM.
He recommended that I go for the metallic black rather than the piano black as it ties in with the exterior.
He will use a high quality vinyl that he uses on boats & yacht exteriors.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keen to see how this turns out! And if decent where he's based
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